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It’s only increasing due to immigration, if I’m reading this correctly. https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2020/demo/p25-1146.pdf h

It’s only increasing due to immigration, if I’m reading this correctly. https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2020/demo/p25-1146.pdf https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publicatio...

adamrezich 5y ago
ah, so everything is going according to plan then. downvoters: is this outcome undesirable? if so, why, and what can we do to fix it? because I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to say that having more kids is a good thing, and using immigration/migration as a means of replacing those kids we're not having is a bad thing. thus, is this outcome (declining citizen birth rates, increased immigration/migration compensating for it) not the intended, desired one?
- AussieWog93 5y ago
  (I think you may have been downvoted because your initial comment appeared to be referencing the "White Genocide" conspiracy theory - essentially the idea that the Jews are planning to slowly eliminate the white race in the West and replace them with blacks and Muslims.)
  - thoms_a 5y ago
    This is a bizarrely specific conspiracy theory (and seems to be designed for maximum divide & conquer of voting populations) which I've never heard of. What exactly led to its inception? I always enjoy engaging with conspiracy theories, as they are a great training regimen for keeping one's mind sharp and empirically grounded, but I don't even know where to start with this one!
    - AussieWog93 5y ago
      >What exactly led to its inception? From what I understand, people noticed the fact that whites were gradually becoming a smaller proportion of the population of Western nations, due to both lower fertility and increased immigration. In addition to this, some migrant groups (notably Muslims from the middle-east) have higher-than-replacement fertility rates. Extrapolating this out, the idea was that whites would eventually be "replaced" by Muslims and other "minority" groups over the course of many decades. I don't quite know how the Jews got involved in the conspiracy, but I always found the accusation that they're trying to increase the population of Muslims to be a bit ridiculous.
      - adamrezich 5y ago
        notice that I did not say anything about races or religions or groups or anything, aside from, implicitly, "people who were already citizens of any given Western nation" and "people who are immigrating/migrating to said nation, en masse". my original post, untainted by your invocation of specific groups of people to brand my post as being an invocation of a specific—named even—"conspiracy theory" to be harmful to discourse, because once you have invoked that, not only is all further discussion is off the table, but now I'm now actively in a pickle here because I have to say something or else risk possibly being perceived as an anti-Semite when someone looks in my post history and sees your accusations not responded to by me. I don't know if that was your intent or not but I ask that you please be more sensitive to these things, especially when I'm posting here using my real name.
        AussieWog93 5y ago
pge 5y ago
Not yet - if you look on pages 5 and 6 of that report, you see that births still exceed deaths in the US. Without immigration, though, population will stop growing in the next two decades (but it hasnt stopped yet).

adamrezich 5y ago

ah, so everything is going according to plan then. downvoters: is this outcome undesirable? if so, why, and what can we do to fix it? because I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to say that having more kids is a good thing, and using immigration/migration as a means of replacing those kids we're not having is a bad thing. thus, is this outcome (declining citizen birth rates, increased immigration/migration compensating for it) not the intended, desired one?

AussieWog93 5y ago
(I think you may have been downvoted because your initial comment appeared to be referencing the "White Genocide" conspiracy theory - essentially the idea that the Jews are planning to slowly eliminate the white race in the West and replace them with blacks and Muslims.)
- thoms_a 5y ago
  This is a bizarrely specific conspiracy theory (and seems to be designed for maximum divide & conquer of voting populations) which I've never heard of. What exactly led to its inception? I always enjoy engaging with conspiracy theories, as they are a great training regimen for keeping one's mind sharp and empirically grounded, but I don't even know where to start with this one!
  - AussieWog93 5y ago
    >What exactly led to its inception? From what I understand, people noticed the fact that whites were gradually becoming a smaller proportion of the population of Western nations, due to both lower fertility and increased immigration. In addition to this, some migrant groups (notably Muslims from the middle-east) have higher-than-replacement fertility rates. Extrapolating this out, the idea was that whites would eventually be "replaced" by Muslims and other "minority" groups over the course of many decades. I don't quite know how the Jews got involved in the conspiracy, but I always found the accusation that they're trying to increase the population of Muslims to be a bit ridiculous.
    - adamrezich 5y ago
      notice that I did not say anything about races or religions or groups or anything, aside from, implicitly, "people who were already citizens of any given Western nation" and "people who are immigrating/migrating to said nation, en masse". my original post, untainted by your invocation of specific groups of people to brand my post as being an invocation of a specific—named even—"conspiracy theory" to be harmful to discourse, because once you have invoked that, not only is all further discussion is off the table, but now I'm now actively in a pickle here because I have to say something or else risk possibly being perceived as an anti-Semite when someone looks in my post history and sees your accusations not responded to by me. I don't know if that was your intent or not but I ask that you please be more sensitive to these things, especially when I'm posting here using my real name.
      - AussieWog93 5y ago

pge 5y ago

Not yet - if you look on pages 5 and 6 of that report, you see that births still exceed deaths in the US. Without immigration, though, population will stop growing in the next two decades (but it hasnt stopped yet).