Just to push back on your first paragraph, there is no "we in HN". HN is composed of individual people with various degrees of belief in "HTTPS everywhere" and

Just to push back on your first paragraph, there is no "we in HN". HN is composed of individual people with various degrees of belief in "HTTPS everywhere" and "mass Surveillance is bad", especially since many people here benefit directly or indirectly from money from mass surveillance.