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It’s fine to say with hindsight that vaccine predictions were wrong, but again, that was the official position of the CDC and Biden administration at the time a

It’s fine to say with hindsight that vaccine predictions were wrong, but again, that was the official position of the CDC and Biden administration at the time as well, so it’s hugely dishonest to pretend like she’s some kind of extremist or disinformation artist for being on the same page as them. It’s not really the reader’s responsibility to check everything else in the thread to see how you and/or the thread author are either lying or failing to remember very public facts about the pandemic.

ceejayoz 5y ago
> It’s fine to say with hindsight that vaccine predictions were wrong... It's also fine to say I'm not inclined to trust the opinions of someone who has been repeatedly and demonstrably wrong in this fashion. I know Biden got out over his skis on a number of statements, but can you cite the CDC ever making this claim? The wording they were using in June 2021 was reduce infection. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri... "I also feel that I can't spread it to others" is a confident, evidence-free, and wrong statement.
- jdminhbg 5y ago
  Those CDC claims are now demonstrably wrong in the same post-Delta world you’re judging her claims by. When the CDC recommended that vaccinated people no longer needed to wear masks, exactly what do you think they were claiming that is different from Gandhi? It’s fine if you want to ignore people who’ve made predictions about Covid that turned out to be wrong, but it just means you have to ignore everyone.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    Gandhi’s claim was wrong at the time. Right then and there. There was no indication the vaccines were sterilizing; she was just wishful thinking.
    - jdminhbg 5y ago
      And yet her position was exactly the same as the CDC’s: the vaccines prevent infection and transmission enough that masks were no longer needed on vaccinated people.
      - ceejayoz 5y ago
        That is only part of her stated position, and not the part I take strong issue with. “they make it so that you can't transmit” was a blatantly false claim about the vaccines at the time it was made.

ceejayoz 5y ago

> It’s fine to say with hindsight that vaccine predictions were wrong... It's also fine to say I'm not inclined to trust the opinions of someone who has been repeatedly and demonstrably wrong in this fashion. I know Biden got out over his skis on a number of statements, but can you cite the CDC ever making this claim? The wording they were using in June 2021 was reduce infection. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri... "I also feel that I can't spread it to others" is a confident, evidence-free, and wrong statement.

jdminhbg 5y ago
Those CDC claims are now demonstrably wrong in the same post-Delta world you’re judging her claims by. When the CDC recommended that vaccinated people no longer needed to wear masks, exactly what do you think they were claiming that is different from Gandhi? It’s fine if you want to ignore people who’ve made predictions about Covid that turned out to be wrong, but it just means you have to ignore everyone.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  Gandhi’s claim was wrong at the time. Right then and there. There was no indication the vaccines were sterilizing; she was just wishful thinking.
  - jdminhbg 5y ago
    And yet her position was exactly the same as the CDC’s: the vaccines prevent infection and transmission enough that masks were no longer needed on vaccinated people.
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      That is only part of her stated position, and not the part I take strong issue with. “they make it so that you can't transmit” was a blatantly false claim about the vaccines at the time it was made.