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I’m sorry but this is utter nonsense. Clinton conceded right away and notably did not urge her supporters to storm the Capitol to “rectify” the results. And re

I’m sorry but this is utter nonsense. Clinton conceded right away and notably did not urge her supporters to storm the Capitol to “rectify” the results. And regarding governors, recall that most of the swing states were under republican control. Edit: I noticed now you gave the Russian connection as the example. Russian interference was indeed the case. Many people were angry at that but there’s an important difference between being angry at it and saying the Russians “stole” the election as in “had undue influence”, versus just pretending the result was rigged and you actually won an election you lost. That was something Trump did and it undermines the democracy you build your country on. On the question of collusion the Muller report is quite informing but he explicitly didn’t want to say anything on the matter and left that to Congress.

cloutchaser 5y ago
syshum 5y ago
I’m sorry but this is utter nonsense. Clinton is not a populist, she part of the establishment, her method of subversion was and is through the institutions themselves, i.e using the media, and the deep state to do the work not the people. Her power base is not the common man or woman. As to the republican governors, you seem to have confused me with a republican, I am not a supporter of either side of the uniparty coin. I am an actual anti-establishment type, not one that is only anti-establishment when my "tribe" is not in power, or when the "other side" of the uniparty is in power. I am anti-estblishment 24/7, no matter if it is republican or democrat I was no fan of Trump, never voted for him infact (nor Clinton or biden, or obama, or bush, or ....)
- Swenrekcah 5y ago
  I don’t disagree that Clinton is as establishment as it gets and there were a lot of reasons to not want her in office. I’m just triggered by the false equivalency, because unlikeable elite as she may be, her politics are more like treatable cancer for democracy whereas Trumps is like acute lead poisoning. The reason I mentioned the republican governors wasn’t to suggest you were a member, rather to suggest that if we did think those states performed election fraud then we’d expect it to be in favour of the Republican Party, right? Regardless of all that I hope you have a great weekend :)
  - syshum 5y ago
    >>rather to suggest that if we did think those states performed election fraud then we’d expect it to be in favour of the Republican Party, right? Not necessarily, there was a large part of the Republican party that was, and still is Never Trumpers... They were the establishment, anti-populist, neo-con wing of the party. Their allegiance is not the party, but the establishment, the elite, etc.

cloutchaser 5y ago

syshum 5y ago

I’m sorry but this is utter nonsense. Clinton is not a populist, she part of the establishment, her method of subversion was and is through the institutions themselves, i.e using the media, and the deep state to do the work not the people. Her power base is not the common man or woman. As to the republican governors, you seem to have confused me with a republican, I am not a supporter of either side of the uniparty coin. I am an actual anti-establishment type, not one that is only anti-establishment when my "tribe" is not in power, or when the "other side" of the uniparty is in power. I am anti-estblishment 24/7, no matter if it is republican or democrat I was no fan of Trump, never voted for him infact (nor Clinton or biden, or obama, or bush, or ....)

Swenrekcah 5y ago
I don’t disagree that Clinton is as establishment as it gets and there were a lot of reasons to not want her in office. I’m just triggered by the false equivalency, because unlikeable elite as she may be, her politics are more like treatable cancer for democracy whereas Trumps is like acute lead poisoning. The reason I mentioned the republican governors wasn’t to suggest you were a member, rather to suggest that if we did think those states performed election fraud then we’d expect it to be in favour of the Republican Party, right? Regardless of all that I hope you have a great weekend :)
- syshum 5y ago
  >>rather to suggest that if we did think those states performed election fraud then we’d expect it to be in favour of the Republican Party, right? Not necessarily, there was a large part of the Republican party that was, and still is Never Trumpers... They were the establishment, anti-populist, neo-con wing of the party. Their allegiance is not the party, but the establishment, the elite, etc.