No, but I think that's part of the problem. The movement to abolish or reform work (it's a big tent and I don't agree with everyone or everything about it) is a

No, but I think that's part of the problem. The movement to abolish or reform work (it's a big tent and I don't agree with everyone or everything about it) is a leaderless movement, but in taking this interview, Doreen set herself up to be perceived as a leader by the movement's enemies (I say "enemies" because the Fox audience is surely hostile to the idea).