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> Secondly, whether you like it or not, women are more likely to complain of male nudity in a venue than men are to complain of female nudity in a venue, yet yo

by badRNG 5y ago

> Secondly, whether you like it or not, women are more likely to complain of male nudity in a venue than men are to complain of female nudity in a venue, yet you want to portray the argument as "men are the problem". Source? Anecdotally living in the South, it is overwhelmingly men complaining about women not properly conforming to their sensibility regarding modesty. I've never heard it the other way around, and you claiming it is an undisputed fact "where I like it or not" is bizarre to me.

kragen 5y ago
I've mostly heard men and women complaining about female nudity, but then you have flashers.
- badRNG 5y ago
  - kragen 5y ago
    I definitely did not intend to say that Naomi Wu is like a flasher, and I appreciate your implicit request for clarification. I meant that I frequently hear both men and women criticize specifically women for nudity, especially when the critics are from the US, and I very rarely hear them criticizing men for nudity. When men do get criticized for nudity, it's usually in a circumstance where the nudity is being interpreted as a threat, such as a flasher, which is a very different situation than posting a video of laser-cutting a dressmaker's dummy.
    - badRNG 5y ago
      Gotcha appreciate the clarification. Yeah that's an important distinction between violating some norm regarding how "modest" women are required to be and the overtly violent nature of sexual harassment by men.
- kragen 5y ago
  Unfortunately the comment asking for clarification has been flagged into oblivion, so I'll repeat my clarifying comment here: I definitely did not intend to say that Naomi Wu is like a flasher, and I appreciate your implicit request for clarification. I meant that I frequently hear both men and women criticize specifically women for nudity, especially when the critics are from the US, and I very rarely hear them criticizing men for nudity. When men do get criticized for nudity, it's usually in a circumstance where the nudity is being interpreted as a threat, such as a flasher, which is a very different situation than posting a video of laser-cutting a dressmaker's dummy.

by badRNG 5y ago

kragen 5y ago

I've mostly heard men and women complaining about female nudity, but then you have flashers.

badRNG 5y ago
- kragen 5y ago
  I definitely did not intend to say that Naomi Wu is like a flasher, and I appreciate your implicit request for clarification. I meant that I frequently hear both men and women criticize specifically women for nudity, especially when the critics are from the US, and I very rarely hear them criticizing men for nudity. When men do get criticized for nudity, it's usually in a circumstance where the nudity is being interpreted as a threat, such as a flasher, which is a very different situation than posting a video of laser-cutting a dressmaker's dummy.
  - badRNG 5y ago
    Gotcha appreciate the clarification. Yeah that's an important distinction between violating some norm regarding how "modest" women are required to be and the overtly violent nature of sexual harassment by men.
kragen 5y ago
Unfortunately the comment asking for clarification has been flagged into oblivion, so I'll repeat my clarifying comment here: I definitely did not intend to say that Naomi Wu is like a flasher, and I appreciate your implicit request for clarification. I meant that I frequently hear both men and women criticize specifically women for nudity, especially when the critics are from the US, and I very rarely hear them criticizing men for nudity. When men do get criticized for nudity, it's usually in a circumstance where the nudity is being interpreted as a threat, such as a flasher, which is a very different situation than posting a video of laser-cutting a dressmaker's dummy.