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If you think nude statues are tasteless wait until you learn about fine art!

by meheleventyone 5y ago

4gotunameagain 5y ago
- colechristensen 5y ago
  So you think a Roman temple or senator weren’t commissioning statues of beautiful naked women for effectively marketing purposes? Like people who think anything Mozart or Shakespeare is high art but fail to realize both are full of dirty jokes.
  - 4gotunameagain 5y ago
    Past achievements should be considered within their timescale. If I build a water clock now, it would be cool. But Ctesibius building a water clock in 250 BC, now that's fucking impressive. 3D printing a human bust is cool. Sculpting a human bust three thousand years ago? That's incredible. Will those videos or that dressmaker's dummy have any artistic value in the future ? Please.
    - colechristensen 5y ago
      A modern day engineer designing and building 3d printers then scanning themselves in to building a physical model of themselves is I think roughly equivalent to a 2000 year old sculptor learning the by then commodity trade of stonecarving. Both skilled artisans doing things which did require a lot of training but also not uncommon in their own age. Let’s not infantilize the past and pretend everything they did was mindblowing.
- delecti 5y ago
  > I don't think it is controversial to state that it could be perceived as tasteless "Controversial" is doing a lot of work here. Much of what is considered acceptable is only in retrospect. Much fine art was considered "controversial" in its tim.
- chrischen 5y ago
  She’s not forcing anybody to give their attention. Who’s fault is it to give that attention? (Hint: men). So she can’t get breast enhancement because it will risk other (men) possibly objectifying her? It’s the men doing the objectifying so defining what she can or can’t do with her body because of the effect it might have on others (mostly men) is the very definition of male entitlement.
- pjc50 5y ago
  > cherish, value and respect each other Nothing says "we value you" like demonetization. /s
  - 4gotunameagain 5y ago
    What do you mean ? The behaviour of each and every woman should be unquestionably praised and supported in order to support equality ? This is preposterous.
    - pjc50 5y ago
      Merely that demonetizing her work is literally setting its value to zero. What do you mean by "valuing"?
      - 4gotunameagain 5y ago
        I was referring to valuing each other in general, not every random female on youtube just because of her sex chromosomes.
        pjc50 5y ago
        Valuing "each other", but not "females"? (Why do people say "females" rather than the more natural English "women" anyway?)

If you think nude statues are tasteless wait until you learn about fine art!

4gotunameagain 5y ago

colechristensen 5y ago
So you think a Roman temple or senator weren’t commissioning statues of beautiful naked women for effectively marketing purposes? Like people who think anything Mozart or Shakespeare is high art but fail to realize both are full of dirty jokes.
- 4gotunameagain 5y ago
  Past achievements should be considered within their timescale. If I build a water clock now, it would be cool. But Ctesibius building a water clock in 250 BC, now that's fucking impressive. 3D printing a human bust is cool. Sculpting a human bust three thousand years ago? That's incredible. Will those videos or that dressmaker's dummy have any artistic value in the future ? Please.
  - colechristensen 5y ago
    A modern day engineer designing and building 3d printers then scanning themselves in to building a physical model of themselves is I think roughly equivalent to a 2000 year old sculptor learning the by then commodity trade of stonecarving. Both skilled artisans doing things which did require a lot of training but also not uncommon in their own age. Let’s not infantilize the past and pretend everything they did was mindblowing.
delecti 5y ago
> I don't think it is controversial to state that it could be perceived as tasteless "Controversial" is doing a lot of work here. Much of what is considered acceptable is only in retrospect. Much fine art was considered "controversial" in its tim.
chrischen 5y ago
She’s not forcing anybody to give their attention. Who’s fault is it to give that attention? (Hint: men). So she can’t get breast enhancement because it will risk other (men) possibly objectifying her? It’s the men doing the objectifying so defining what she can or can’t do with her body because of the effect it might have on others (mostly men) is the very definition of male entitlement.
pjc50 5y ago
> cherish, value and respect each other Nothing says "we value you" like demonetization. /s
- 4gotunameagain 5y ago
  What do you mean ? The behaviour of each and every woman should be unquestionably praised and supported in order to support equality ? This is preposterous.
  - pjc50 5y ago
    Merely that demonetizing her work is literally setting its value to zero. What do you mean by "valuing"?
    - 4gotunameagain 5y ago
      I was referring to valuing each other in general, not every random female on youtube just because of her sex chromosomes.
      - pjc50 5y ago
        Valuing "each other", but not "females"? (Why do people say "females" rather than the more natural English "women" anyway?)