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> This is now somehow bad, and we're supposed throw out personal autonomy, and trust experts How do you apply your personal autonomy to a domain you know nothi

by Nursie 5y ago

> This is now somehow bad, and we're supposed throw out personal autonomy, and trust experts How do you apply your personal autonomy to a domain you know nothing about? In fact, how do you even figure out you don't know enough about something to make a good judgement? You might not need pills, but what if you do? Your personal judgement, made from a position of more or less total ignorance, is going to be wrong. In that case fine, your condition gets worse and has serious consequences, it's your choice I guess. But when it comes to public health measures, and particularly contagious diseases, you're making the decision for other people too. Is your ignorant autonomy more important than other people's lives? These are not easy questions, and I'm not proposing specific answers here, but "use your own judgement" isn't a panacea, especially when other people have to live (or die) with the fallout.

mns 5y ago
> How do you apply your personal autonomy to a domain you know nothing about? In fact, how do you even figure out you don't know enough about something to make a good judgement? Mostly because the experts don't care about you and don't have the time to care about you. What trust can people have in doctors if they treat people like ATMs? My partner went to one of her doctors and he prescribed her a vaccine (not COVID or anything like that) for something that's more of nuisance than anything else. She wanted to take it but checked about it first. She also has an autoimmune disease. Turns out, even though her autoimmune disease is in her file, the doctor didn't even read the file and prescribed her a vaccine that should never be prescribed to someone with that particular AI disease. So yeah, talk about good judgement and trusting "experts".
- Nursie 5y ago
  It sounds to me like she picked one source of expert opinion over another, rather than ignoring 'experts' entirely. In that case using her judgement well. Perhaps as a society we need to get better at verifying 'experts' really are? And not letting them prescribe meds if not ...

by Nursie 5y ago

mns 5y ago

> How do you apply your personal autonomy to a domain you know nothing about? In fact, how do you even figure out you don't know enough about something to make a good judgement? Mostly because the experts don't care about you and don't have the time to care about you. What trust can people have in doctors if they treat people like ATMs? My partner went to one of her doctors and he prescribed her a vaccine (not COVID or anything like that) for something that's more of nuisance than anything else. She wanted to take it but checked about it first. She also has an autoimmune disease. Turns out, even though her autoimmune disease is in her file, the doctor didn't even read the file and prescribed her a vaccine that should never be prescribed to someone with that particular AI disease. So yeah, talk about good judgement and trusting "experts".

Nursie 5y ago
It sounds to me like she picked one source of expert opinion over another, rather than ignoring 'experts' entirely. In that case using her judgement well. Perhaps as a society we need to get better at verifying 'experts' really are? And not letting them prescribe meds if not ...