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Thanks for the missing context I haven't been following the news around this in any detail. Also, I agree it was politically a bad move and she should have expe

Thanks for the missing context I haven't been following the news around this in any detail. Also, I agree it was politically a bad move and she should have expected it and prepared better. Just him mocking aspiring to be a dog walker really revolted me. I deeply appreciate everyone who does things for me so I can be doing other things that interest me no matter what they might be.

kova12 5y ago
walking dogs for living is surely a valid life choice, it's just not a type of career you would expect from leader of a movement.
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- llampx 5y ago
  As far as I can see, this person didn't act like a leader of the movement at all except by founding the subreddit and deleting the inevitable spam and porn links. Does they have any posts where they is acting like a leader?
  - SauciestGNU 5y ago
    No, but I think that's part of the problem. The movement to abolish or reform work (it's a big tent and I don't agree with everyone or everything about it) is a leaderless movement, but in taking this interview, Doreen set herself up to be perceived as a leader by the movement's enemies (I say "enemies" because the Fox audience is surely hostile to the idea).
- HWR_14 5y ago
  I'm not sure why it's not a reasonable career for someone leading a movement. Unless/until the movement can pay them to be full time, they have to do something to eat. I would imagine people leading a movement would prioritize a lower number of work hours to distract from that and a flexible schedule. That said, this appears to be a mod of a subreddit, not the leader of a movement.
  - kova12 5y ago
    If someone like this individual is your ideal of a leader, more power to you. And one _can_ really be a leader while doing something menial (look at Buddha for example), but there has to be something more to a person than walking dogs. And that is what reporter tried hard to uncover, but of course it was interpreted as him trolling. But he was really onto something. You might want to work something minimal, but that's not the end goal. Remember the guy who was promoting the "4 hour work week"? He was not advocating to just sit and do nothing, he was saying - work less so that you can do things you like. And that is what reporter tried to uncover - ok, so one works 20 hours a week - why? what's the purpose? Have any hobbies? Do something exciting remaining time? Raising children, boating, hiking, playing sports, meditating, flying a kite, partying, travelling - WHAT is it that you do now that you have so much extra time? And it turned out that this individual has no answer, which likely means that the answer is "wasting". And that's the most damaging revelation in the whole interview - you cheat your employer, you are a parasite on society, and is that for some higher purpose? Nope, not at all. People working 90 hours a week have more exciting and fulfilling lives
    - HWR_14 5y ago
      I specifically said that this person wasn't a leader - I said that walking dogs while leading a movement was a reasonable choice. That is, this person isn't a leader, but it's unrelated to the fact that they are a dogwalker. You seem to have watched a different interview than I did. I don't recall seeing the interviewer ask about what else they did with their time off. I saw the interviewer accuse the person of being lazy and ask if they had higher career aspirations. > And it turned out that this individual has no answer, which likely means that the answer is "wasting" I have no idea how hard it is to be the starting mod of a 1.4 million person subreddit, but I guess it requires some amount of work. > you are a parasite on society, I don't even understand what that means.

kova12 5y ago

walking dogs for living is surely a valid life choice, it's just not a type of career you would expect from leader of a movement.

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llampx 5y ago
As far as I can see, this person didn't act like a leader of the movement at all except by founding the subreddit and deleting the inevitable spam and porn links. Does they have any posts where they is acting like a leader?
- SauciestGNU 5y ago
  No, but I think that's part of the problem. The movement to abolish or reform work (it's a big tent and I don't agree with everyone or everything about it) is a leaderless movement, but in taking this interview, Doreen set herself up to be perceived as a leader by the movement's enemies (I say "enemies" because the Fox audience is surely hostile to the idea).
HWR_14 5y ago
I'm not sure why it's not a reasonable career for someone leading a movement. Unless/until the movement can pay them to be full time, they have to do something to eat. I would imagine people leading a movement would prioritize a lower number of work hours to distract from that and a flexible schedule. That said, this appears to be a mod of a subreddit, not the leader of a movement.
- kova12 5y ago
  If someone like this individual is your ideal of a leader, more power to you. And one _can_ really be a leader while doing something menial (look at Buddha for example), but there has to be something more to a person than walking dogs. And that is what reporter tried hard to uncover, but of course it was interpreted as him trolling. But he was really onto something. You might want to work something minimal, but that's not the end goal. Remember the guy who was promoting the "4 hour work week"? He was not advocating to just sit and do nothing, he was saying - work less so that you can do things you like. And that is what reporter tried to uncover - ok, so one works 20 hours a week - why? what's the purpose? Have any hobbies? Do something exciting remaining time? Raising children, boating, hiking, playing sports, meditating, flying a kite, partying, travelling - WHAT is it that you do now that you have so much extra time? And it turned out that this individual has no answer, which likely means that the answer is "wasting". And that's the most damaging revelation in the whole interview - you cheat your employer, you are a parasite on society, and is that for some higher purpose? Nope, not at all. People working 90 hours a week have more exciting and fulfilling lives
  - HWR_14 5y ago
    I specifically said that this person wasn't a leader - I said that walking dogs while leading a movement was a reasonable choice. That is, this person isn't a leader, but it's unrelated to the fact that they are a dogwalker. You seem to have watched a different interview than I did. I don't recall seeing the interviewer ask about what else they did with their time off. I saw the interviewer accuse the person of being lazy and ask if they had higher career aspirations. > And it turned out that this individual has no answer, which likely means that the answer is "wasting" I have no idea how hard it is to be the starting mod of a 1.4 million person subreddit, but I guess it requires some amount of work. > you are a parasite on society, I don't even understand what that means.