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I know everyone is going to jump the gun and declare how mediocre Intel's offerings are in terms of power efficiency but lets not forget that this Laptop is als

I know everyone is going to jump the gun and declare how mediocre Intel's offerings are in terms of power efficiency but lets not forget that this Laptop is also running RTX 3080Ti and historically more 5% performance on Alder Lake CPUs requires somehow way more power. Same thing happened during 12900K reviews. IMO - it would be interesting to see benchmark of P and U series Laptops. Honestly I do not think they are going to beat Apple M1 yet - but having a 14 or 10 core CPUs in <45w envelop will be interesting. I do not think Intel is even after Apple yet but they look to have caught up and surpassed AMD with this release for sure. For enthusiast in me - who likes a Laptop that can run Linux without problems, an all Intel 14core Laptop with <45w power budget will be great.

teaearlgraycold 5y ago
> I do not think Intel is even after Apple yet but they look to have caught up and surpassed AMD with this release for sure. Such a beautiful sentence to read. Love the actual competition these days.
tehbeard 5y ago
> I do not think Intel is even after Apple yet but they look to have caught up and surpassed AMD with this release for sure. Hmmm, as I've said before on other reviews around 12th gen, it feels like they've just pulled some levers around the power/thermal envelope being targeted (atleast on i9s?). Not really much more they can squeeze out of it that way... I'd love to see some competition, but this feels like such a short term way to get "back in the game".
sid-ant 5y ago
There is no Intel 14core laptop with <45w power budget at the frequencies this benchmark was performed. i9-12900HK consumes 115W of Turbo Power (PL2) [1] At 45W it can only do 2.5Ghz ( literally half ) on P cores and 1.8Ghz on E cores. It would be really interesting to see how this processor works with TB disabled which is really easy thing to do. [1] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/processors/core/12th-gen-core-mobile-processors-brief.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/proces...
- gnufied 5y ago
  > There is no Intel 14core laptop with <45w power budget at the frequencies this benchmark was performed. I didn't say anything about frequencies. :-) But there is https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-1280P-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.589481.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-1280P-Processor-... which is 14core P series model with power envelop of 28w. I would personally take 5-10% lower performance if it results in decent efficiency.

teaearlgraycold 5y ago

> I do not think Intel is even after Apple yet but they look to have caught up and surpassed AMD with this release for sure. Such a beautiful sentence to read. Love the actual competition these days.

tehbeard 5y ago

> I do not think Intel is even after Apple yet but they look to have caught up and surpassed AMD with this release for sure. Hmmm, as I've said before on other reviews around 12th gen, it feels like they've just pulled some levers around the power/thermal envelope being targeted (atleast on i9s?). Not really much more they can squeeze out of it that way... I'd love to see some competition, but this feels like such a short term way to get "back in the game".

sid-ant 5y ago

There is no Intel 14core laptop with <45w power budget at the frequencies this benchmark was performed. i9-12900HK consumes 115W of Turbo Power (PL2) [1] At 45W it can only do 2.5Ghz ( literally half ) on P cores and 1.8Ghz on E cores. It would be really interesting to see how this processor works with TB disabled which is really easy thing to do. [1] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/processors/core/12th-gen-core-mobile-processors-brief.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/proces...

gnufied 5y ago
> There is no Intel 14core laptop with <45w power budget at the frequencies this benchmark was performed. I didn't say anything about frequencies. :-) But there is https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-1280P-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.589481.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-1280P-Processor-... which is 14core P series model with power envelop of 28w. I would personally take 5-10% lower performance if it results in decent efficiency.