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Maybe he didn't quite follow the same trajectory of radicalization/insanity as the rest of the alt-right, but he was definitely a poster child of the movement a

Maybe he didn't quite follow the same trajectory of radicalization/insanity as the rest of the alt-right, but he was definitely a poster child of the movement at some point. Him claiming to not be doesn't really change anything.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
The alt-right a loose collection (with overlaps) of January 6th supporters, anti-vaccination activists, people who believe the election was stolen, white supremacists, and so forth. Ben Shapiro is pro-vax, does not believe the election was stolen, and has had the FBI arrest alt-right people who made death threats against him multiple times over the years. "Poster child of the movement?" Unless you consider alt-right to be completely the same as far-right, that was never the case. No movement makes death threats against their poster child.
_-david-_ 5y ago
Ben Shapiro was one of the people most attacked by the alt-right. The alt right isn't a big fan of Jews after all.
- refurb 5y ago
  “Alt-right” is just a label slapped on an unacceptable right-of-center viewpoint that attempts to lump it in with racism, authoritarianism, etc. It’s kind of a useless label at this point, since it’s thrown around so much.
  - jjgreen 5y ago
    According to Wikipedia [1], the term was coined by American white nationalist Richard B. Spencer and shortened to "alt-right" and popularised by far-right participants of /pol/, the politics board of web forum 4chan. So more a label that they slapped on themselves. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
    - refurb 5y ago
      That Wikipedia article seems like a stretch? A white nationalist launched a webzine called “The Alternative Right”. Then “His term was shortened to "alt-right" and popularised by far-right participants of /pol/, the politics board of web forum 4chan.” So other people used the term alt-right and somehow it’s linked to a webzine?
      - jjgreen 5y ago
        You could always correct that article then.
        refurb 5y ago
        I could, but I like my sanity! But anyways, thanks for the link, I wasn't aware that at least wikipedia makes that connection. I've alway heard "alt-right" used as "a vague collection of far right people that fall outside the Republican Party". So they could include white supremacists, but aren't exclusively white supremacists.

gjsman-1000 5y ago

The alt-right a loose collection (with overlaps) of January 6th supporters, anti-vaccination activists, people who believe the election was stolen, white supremacists, and so forth. Ben Shapiro is pro-vax, does not believe the election was stolen, and has had the FBI arrest alt-right people who made death threats against him multiple times over the years. "Poster child of the movement?" Unless you consider alt-right to be completely the same as far-right, that was never the case. No movement makes death threats against their poster child.

_-david-_ 5y ago

Ben Shapiro was one of the people most attacked by the alt-right. The alt right isn't a big fan of Jews after all.

refurb 5y ago
“Alt-right” is just a label slapped on an unacceptable right-of-center viewpoint that attempts to lump it in with racism, authoritarianism, etc. It’s kind of a useless label at this point, since it’s thrown around so much.
- jjgreen 5y ago
  According to Wikipedia [1], the term was coined by American white nationalist Richard B. Spencer and shortened to "alt-right" and popularised by far-right participants of /pol/, the politics board of web forum 4chan. So more a label that they slapped on themselves. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
  - refurb 5y ago
    That Wikipedia article seems like a stretch? A white nationalist launched a webzine called “The Alternative Right”. Then “His term was shortened to "alt-right" and popularised by far-right participants of /pol/, the politics board of web forum 4chan.” So other people used the term alt-right and somehow it’s linked to a webzine?
    - jjgreen 5y ago
      You could always correct that article then.
      - refurb 5y ago
        I could, but I like my sanity! But anyways, thanks for the link, I wasn't aware that at least wikipedia makes that connection. I've alway heard "alt-right" used as "a vague collection of far right people that fall outside the Republican Party". So they could include white supremacists, but aren't exclusively white supremacists.