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Spotify has a multi-year contract with Rogan, paying him more than $100 million for exclusive content. That does make me want to switch platforms. https://www

Spotify has a multi-year contract with Rogan, paying him more than $100 million for exclusive content. That does make me want to switch platforms. https://www.wsj.com/articles/spotify-strikes-exclusive-podcast-deal-with-joe-rogan-11589913814 https://www.wsj.com/articles/spotify-strikes-exclusive-podca...

javajosh 5y ago
May I suggest the platform of...physical media? I know, retrograde! Inconvenient! Etc! But you can rip your media and get back a lot of the convenience, and if you want you can listen to music without involving a screen. I was never, ever okay with a big company knowing and controlling how, when, and how long I listen to my music. I dabbled, but I found it far more creepy, somehow, than even letting Google host my email (which is far more intimate, after all). So to you I say: come on back, the water is fine.
- edgyquant 5y ago
  That doesn’t fill Spotifys niche. I can listen to the music I like a million ways, even pirating if I want, but Spotify suggests new music (even though it’s nowhere near as good as Pandora was when I used it years ago.)
  - javajosh 5y ago
    Let me suggest KEXP and KCRW. They stream and have YouTube channels.
    - joshuahaglund 5y ago
      I'd add WFMU (edit: also KXLU) to your list. But I still like to be able to skip songs and change to a whole new playlist/genre/album with basically zero effort or costs if I feel like binging on a genre. Which basically means I'm going to be subscribed to some streaming service. Youtube is a good option.
    - brigandish 5y ago
      I remember the days when musicians would mention music they like in interviews, me hearing it and then going on a search to find it. Back then I would've thought Spotify to be an improvement on that. Turns out that it's not.
pumaontheprowl 5y ago
Not only that, but it's rumored that Rogan negotiated significant creative freedom into the contract. If Spotify were to capitulate to Young's request, they'd most likely be breaking their contract with Rogan. In which case Rogan could just put his podcast back on all the other podcasting platforms again (or even just distribute it from his own website). Young thinking he has any leverage to silence Rogan here is laughable. I suspect he's either senile, extremely narcissistic, or both.
- jjulius 5y ago
  >Young thinking he has any leverage to silence Rogan here is laughable. I suspect he's either senile, extremely narcissistic, or both. ... he's always been extremely vocal politically and socially, this is really no different. But yeah, sure, let's call him senile/narcissistic.
- joshuahaglund 5y ago
  What's laughable is that so many people think Neil Young cares if Spotify carries his music, as if he needs the money or exposure. He's making a statement that Joe Rogan is polluting our minds. Spotify is promoting and paying Rogan, with an exclusive contract. Will this change anything? We'll see, probably not. But I'm sure Neil Young doesn't care if his music isn't on Spotify, as long as they're funding Rogan's BS.
  - brigandish 5y ago
    > He's making a statement that Joe Rogan is polluting our minds. I'm reminded of a line from The Prophet: “Think you the spirit is a still pool which you can trouble with a staff?” No one's mind is polluted any other way than one's own carelessness. Somehow you've managed to discern that Rogan's information is polluting and manage to survive with a mind that is still capable of good reason - I'm sure you think so. Why do you not credit others with this ability?
    - joshuahaglund 5y ago
      I once heard "Advertising doesn't work on me, I'm too smart." But we're all susceptible to suggestion and sensationalism, and some to a greater degree. The fact that this company is paying him millions, and probably making more, creates a perverse incentive to sustain and promote him and his nonsense.

javajosh 5y ago

May I suggest the platform of...physical media? I know, retrograde! Inconvenient! Etc! But you can rip your media and get back a lot of the convenience, and if you want you can listen to music without involving a screen. I was never, ever okay with a big company knowing and controlling how, when, and how long I listen to my music. I dabbled, but I found it far more creepy, somehow, than even letting Google host my email (which is far more intimate, after all). So to you I say: come on back, the water is fine.

edgyquant 5y ago
That doesn’t fill Spotifys niche. I can listen to the music I like a million ways, even pirating if I want, but Spotify suggests new music (even though it’s nowhere near as good as Pandora was when I used it years ago.)
- javajosh 5y ago
  Let me suggest KEXP and KCRW. They stream and have YouTube channels.
  - joshuahaglund 5y ago
    I'd add WFMU (edit: also KXLU) to your list. But I still like to be able to skip songs and change to a whole new playlist/genre/album with basically zero effort or costs if I feel like binging on a genre. Which basically means I'm going to be subscribed to some streaming service. Youtube is a good option.
  - brigandish 5y ago
    I remember the days when musicians would mention music they like in interviews, me hearing it and then going on a search to find it. Back then I would've thought Spotify to be an improvement on that. Turns out that it's not.

pumaontheprowl 5y ago

Not only that, but it's rumored that Rogan negotiated significant creative freedom into the contract. If Spotify were to capitulate to Young's request, they'd most likely be breaking their contract with Rogan. In which case Rogan could just put his podcast back on all the other podcasting platforms again (or even just distribute it from his own website). Young thinking he has any leverage to silence Rogan here is laughable. I suspect he's either senile, extremely narcissistic, or both.

jjulius 5y ago
>Young thinking he has any leverage to silence Rogan here is laughable. I suspect he's either senile, extremely narcissistic, or both. ... he's always been extremely vocal politically and socially, this is really no different. But yeah, sure, let's call him senile/narcissistic.
joshuahaglund 5y ago
What's laughable is that so many people think Neil Young cares if Spotify carries his music, as if he needs the money or exposure. He's making a statement that Joe Rogan is polluting our minds. Spotify is promoting and paying Rogan, with an exclusive contract. Will this change anything? We'll see, probably not. But I'm sure Neil Young doesn't care if his music isn't on Spotify, as long as they're funding Rogan's BS.
- brigandish 5y ago
  > He's making a statement that Joe Rogan is polluting our minds. I'm reminded of a line from The Prophet: “Think you the spirit is a still pool which you can trouble with a staff?” No one's mind is polluted any other way than one's own carelessness. Somehow you've managed to discern that Rogan's information is polluting and manage to survive with a mind that is still capable of good reason - I'm sure you think so. Why do you not credit others with this ability?
  - joshuahaglund 5y ago
    I once heard "Advertising doesn't work on me, I'm too smart." But we're all susceptible to suggestion and sensationalism, and some to a greater degree. The fact that this company is paying him millions, and probably making more, creates a perverse incentive to sustain and promote him and his nonsense.