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> you don't get to control who gets to say what. Of course you do! If you have more leverage and power than the person you’re trying to silence, then you get t
by paulcole 5y ago
> you don't get to control who gets to say what.
Of course you do! If you have more leverage and power than the person you’re trying to silence, then you get to silence them.
See: Nearly every cop who killed an innocent person up until about the last 5 years.
- mike_hock 5y ago> If you have more leverage and power than the person you’re trying to silence, then you get to silence them. Yeah. And it turned out Young didn't have more leverage in this case.
- paulcole 5y agoYes, but my point is clearly that if Young had more leverage, Rogan would be off Spotify right now.
- encryptluks2 5y agoWhy doesn't Young show how much money he is losing by this. I am willing to guess it is $2k/mo. if that.
- awb 5y agoBack of the napkin: $0.004 per play https://www.makeuseof.com/how-much-spotify-pay-per-stream/ https://www.makeuseof.com/how-much-spotify-pay-per-stream/ ~6M monthly listeners https://www.newsweek.com/spotify-unlikely-drop-joe-rogan-over-neil-young-ultimatum-1672680 https://www.newsweek.com/spotify-unlikely-drop-joe-rogan-ove... $24k/month ~$300k/year Not sure how much goes directly to Neil and how much of a cut the record label gets. Neil Young’s net worth is ~$200M https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/neil-young-net-worth/ https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-s... So, he’s losing about 0.15% of his net worth as a result. Or, if he had a $100k/year salary, about $150 before taxes, maybe around $75 after taxes.
- ByteJockey 5y agoI think that would be for someone with a net worth of $100k, not someone with a $100k/year salary.
- encryptluks2 5y agohttps://www.makeuseof.com/how-much-money-does-spotify-pay-artists/ https://www.makeuseof.com/how-much-money-does-spotify-pay-ar... > Several things come into play for Spotify artist payouts like the listener's subscription tier and country of origin, the number of streams a song has, advertising revenue per market, and distribution contracts. > In a tweet, classical violinist Tasmin Little with 755,000 monthly subscribers has disclosed earning £12.34 ($17) for five to six million streams. The only way we'll know is if they release the information, and my guess is that neither party will do so publicly. I would guess $2k/mo. but I could be wrong. This is still pretty good considering there are multiple streaming platforms. Just checking out Neil Young on YouTube Music he has only approx 440k subscribers, vs someone like Jason Mraz with 3.4M. I am guessing that the numbers on Spotify are likely skewed by a bit as well.
- mike_hock 5y agoAnd my point was clearly one of principle, not an observation of real-world power dynamics.
- bottled_poe 5y agoIt seems dangerous to be so condoning of censorship. Let people make up their own minds about the validity/importance of the content. The more information that is available the better.
- SantalBlush 5y agoIt didn't seem like that was the point being made in the parent comment, but maybe I misread it.
- ahartmetz 5y agoI don't think it's condoning, it's just stating how it is.
- paulcole 5y agoI’m not condoning censorship. It’s naive to think that if a person with enough power wants to censor me, they won’t be able to accomplish it. Accept it as the way of the world.
- bottled_poe 5y agoRight, I thought you were talking about Spotify's power over Young, but re-reading your comment I think you meant Young vs Rogan.
- croon 5y agoI think they mean anyone/everyone in general terms, not someone specific.
- nsajko 5y agoThis has nothing to do with censorship.