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using prohibition of CP as an example is a very weak argument, generally speaking nude photos are said to be the speech of the person in the photo's they give

by syshum 5y ago

using prohibition of CP as an example is a very weak argument, generally speaking nude photos are said to be the speech of the person in the photo's they give the permission for them to be distributed (or not), children are incapable to give this consent thus the prohibition of CP is not censorship in the way you are attempting to conflate it here. this si also why "revenge porn" is illegal, the person distributing the porn is NOT the speaker, the person in the photo;s is, and it is for them to control how that is distributed. As to Germany's censorship of Nazi imagery, and holocaust denial, I believe the better path is the path the OP outlines where debate and open dialog is a better path and government laws. so I disagree that is an example of "good censorship"

worried4future 5y ago
I 100% agree w/r/t the CP argument (I basically posted the same thing at the same time, lol) but the Nazi/Holocaust one I'm not as sure about honestly. I think, in post-war Germany, that type of censorship had a role and was necessary. It probably does do more harm than good today.
taque 5y ago
cmh89 5y ago
Do you have a source for that? My understanding is that photos generally belong to the person who took them. >As to Germany's censorship of Nazi imagery, and holocaust denial, I believe the better path is the path the OP outlines where debate and open dialog is a better path and government laws. so I disagree that is an example of "good censorship" you can't "debate" people who are firmly detached from reality. We can see that with COVID-19 misinformation. Allowing them to parade around in Nazi costumes only helps them, it does nothing for society to let them dress like that and goodstep around. Another example of positive censorship is when Reddit banned /r/jailbait. Do you agree with that? The pictures weren't illegal.

by syshum 5y ago

worried4future 5y ago

I 100% agree w/r/t the CP argument (I basically posted the same thing at the same time, lol) but the Nazi/Holocaust one I'm not as sure about honestly. I think, in post-war Germany, that type of censorship had a role and was necessary. It probably does do more harm than good today.

taque 5y ago

cmh89 5y ago

Do you have a source for that? My understanding is that photos generally belong to the person who took them. >As to Germany's censorship of Nazi imagery, and holocaust denial, I believe the better path is the path the OP outlines where debate and open dialog is a better path and government laws. so I disagree that is an example of "good censorship" you can't "debate" people who are firmly detached from reality. We can see that with COVID-19 misinformation. Allowing them to parade around in Nazi costumes only helps them, it does nothing for society to let them dress like that and goodstep around. Another example of positive censorship is when Reddit banned /r/jailbait. Do you agree with that? The pictures weren't illegal.