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The idea of "freedom" and inalienable rights are also utopian fairy tales. There's a reason the guys that wrote the Constitution called it "a more perfect union

• dragonwriter 5y ago
  > The idea of "freedom" and inalienable rights are also utopian fairy tales. No, they are normative ideals, not fantastical models of how interactions do, or even could, work. Entirely different class of things, even if you disagree with them. (It's true that people build utopian fairy tales out of them, such as the idea that a society observing certain complexes of multiple and conflicting rights without any tradeoff between them can exist. But the ideas of the rights themselves aren't the utopian fairy tales, they are just a value function.)