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>a Core i5 laptop with 16GB of ram running at 1.6GHz Not arguing that's enough, but it is probably better than the average customer laptop. So if you do get a

by tyingq 5y ago

>a Core i5 laptop with 16GB of ram running at 1.6GHz Not arguing that's enough, but it is probably better than the average customer laptop. So if you do get a much higher-end machine, it's worth making sure the app runs okay on something less capable than that.

hellisothers 5y ago
You want my compile times to suffer so I experience what a normal user experiences when using my app? Doesn’t seem like the best use of the developers time.
- tyingq 5y ago
  Maybe read my comment again. I didn't say anything like that, at all.
majewsky 5y ago
Exactly this. I wish more developers were being made mindful of the humongous amount of resources they're wasting.
toast0 5y ago
I was going to write something similar. Actually, I don't care what hardware developers use to develop on, but what they use to experience the product should be at most median of user hardware, and probably lower spec than that (except if they're working on bugs or features for high end devices or specific devices). A low spec laptop (which something with 16GB isn't) and a nice remote build server is a good combination. When you give developers wonderful devices, it takes a lot of mindfulness to consider the performance on lower class hardware. When you have to make do with $100 laptops or phones, you're more likely to make things work for the low end users.
- squiffsquiff 5y ago
  You're thinking here of front-end developers. Everyone else: Platform Back end Mobile Etc Is not targeting median consumer grade laptops At my org the PO's had to upgrade from MacBook air to MacBook Pro in order to be able to screenshare Jira via Ms Teams with slack and outlook open
actionherobiju 5y ago
That is a valid point, but in my case I am developing backend services. I work on 3 services, so most of the time I have 3 instances of Visual Studio running. Then outlook, chrome, git extensions, Notepad++, sometimes Word/Excel/PPT/Adobe Reader. I would also have some background stuff running like Service Fabric, Docket etc. This laptop is down to a crawl under this load.

by tyingq 5y ago

hellisothers 5y ago

You want my compile times to suffer so I experience what a normal user experiences when using my app? Doesn’t seem like the best use of the developers time.

tyingq 5y ago
Maybe read my comment again. I didn't say anything like that, at all.

majewsky 5y ago

Exactly this. I wish more developers were being made mindful of the humongous amount of resources they're wasting.

toast0 5y ago

I was going to write something similar. Actually, I don't care what hardware developers use to develop on, but what they use to experience the product should be at most median of user hardware, and probably lower spec than that (except if they're working on bugs or features for high end devices or specific devices). A low spec laptop (which something with 16GB isn't) and a nice remote build server is a good combination. When you give developers wonderful devices, it takes a lot of mindfulness to consider the performance on lower class hardware. When you have to make do with $100 laptops or phones, you're more likely to make things work for the low end users.

squiffsquiff 5y ago
You're thinking here of front-end developers. Everyone else: Platform Back end Mobile Etc Is not targeting median consumer grade laptops At my org the PO's had to upgrade from MacBook air to MacBook Pro in order to be able to screenshare Jira via Ms Teams with slack and outlook open

actionherobiju 5y ago

That is a valid point, but in my case I am developing backend services. I work on 3 services, so most of the time I have 3 instances of Visual Studio running. Then outlook, chrome, git extensions, Notepad++, sometimes Word/Excel/PPT/Adobe Reader. I would also have some background stuff running like Service Fabric, Docket etc. This laptop is down to a crawl under this load.