Inserts are not at all necessarily optimal in ORMs. Inserts can be just as complex as select queries, since they can include arbitrary select queries. A trivial

Inserts are not at all necessarily optimal in ORMs. Inserts can be just as complex as select queries, since they can include arbitrary select queries. A trivial case of that being. INSERT INTO a SELECT * FROM b; I personally have not felt the need to use and ORM yet. But then I have not built a CRUD heavy app either. Instead most of my time spent on database work is centered around reporting and other complex queries where no ORM I have seen yet helps much.