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Just to be more precise, unvaccinated people represent 26% of new hospitalizations in quebec, and 40% in ICU according to the official dashboard [1]. The effic

Just to be more precise, unvaccinated people represent 26% of new hospitalizations in quebec, and 40% in ICU according to the official dashboard [1]. The efficiency against omicron is very limited, thus the huge deprivations we see here are politically motivated. I feel like I’m living a scary dystopia. 1 - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJt95WHXMAEHzyp?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJt95WHXMAEHzyp?format=jpg&name=...

makomk 5y ago
The current vaccinations are actually reasonably good at preventing Omicron hospitalizations, enough so to be worthwhile on an individual level anyway. The problem is that they're not 100% effective and if Quebec is anything like the UK, almost all the people who're actually at risk of being hospitalized are already vaccinated - there just aren't enough left that vaccinating the remainder will do much about hospitals being overwhelmed. From a social standpoint they aren't a problem. The only purpose of measures like these seems to be giving the voting public an enemy to blame when the hospital system is overwhelmed anyway, and making sure that enemy isn't the politicians who decided how the hospitals were funeded and run.
- rastignack 5y ago
  > The current vaccinations are actually reasonably good at preventing Omicron hospitalizations, enough so to be worthwhile on an individual level. It’s at most halving them. For fit people under 50 the risk low enough to make this vaccine useless. Thus broad measures like this one are absolutely and insanely disproportionate.
bryanlarsen 5y ago
The vaccination rate of the vulnerable population is significantly higher than the vaccination rate in the general population. Your data helps prove that vaccines are quite effective.
- rastignack 5y ago
  It’s effective for people over 50. Thus for most of the victims of this discrimination, vaccine is marginally useful.
peteradio 5y ago
26% of all new hospitalizations or "Covid" hospitalizations? In the States Covid is at most 30% of ICU and unvaccinated would be a small portion of that number.
- rastignack 5y ago
  In France Covid is roughly 5 to get 10% of all emergency services patients. So 26% percent of Covid hospitalizations it is.

makomk 5y ago

The current vaccinations are actually reasonably good at preventing Omicron hospitalizations, enough so to be worthwhile on an individual level anyway. The problem is that they're not 100% effective and if Quebec is anything like the UK, almost all the people who're actually at risk of being hospitalized are already vaccinated - there just aren't enough left that vaccinating the remainder will do much about hospitals being overwhelmed. From a social standpoint they aren't a problem. The only purpose of measures like these seems to be giving the voting public an enemy to blame when the hospital system is overwhelmed anyway, and making sure that enemy isn't the politicians who decided how the hospitals were funeded and run.

rastignack 5y ago
> The current vaccinations are actually reasonably good at preventing Omicron hospitalizations, enough so to be worthwhile on an individual level. It’s at most halving them. For fit people under 50 the risk low enough to make this vaccine useless. Thus broad measures like this one are absolutely and insanely disproportionate.

bryanlarsen 5y ago

The vaccination rate of the vulnerable population is significantly higher than the vaccination rate in the general population. Your data helps prove that vaccines are quite effective.

rastignack 5y ago
It’s effective for people over 50. Thus for most of the victims of this discrimination, vaccine is marginally useful.

peteradio 5y ago

26% of all new hospitalizations or "Covid" hospitalizations? In the States Covid is at most 30% of ICU and unvaccinated would be a small portion of that number.

rastignack 5y ago
In France Covid is roughly 5 to get 10% of all emergency services patients. So 26% percent of Covid hospitalizations it is.