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https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coronavirus/situation-coronavirus-in-quebec/ https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coron

https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coronavirus/situation-coronavirus-in-quebec/ https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coron... The most recent data on the evolution of COVID-19, in the last 24 hours, in Québec show: 4,150 new cases, bringing the total number of people infected to 845,564*; 73 new deaths, for a total of 13,009 deaths; 3,270 hospitalizations, for a decrease of 8 compared to the previous day; 297 new entries, 305 new discharges; 252 people in intensive care, for a decrease of 11 compared to the previous day; 31 new entries, 42 new discharges; 38,734 samples conducted on January 24. I wonder how this action will improve on these numbers.

loceng 5y ago
- Tiktaalik 5y ago
  suicides are way down. just stop. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-suicides-in-canada-fell-32-per-cent-in-first-year-of-pandemic-compared/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-suicides-in-c...
  - loceng 5y ago
    Stop asking questions, stop having concerns and compassion for my fellow humans, stop conversation as part of scientific process? Who's more likely the person who should stop their behaviour - you or me? Alright, so that's one article - and across Canada - now what about specific demographics? What about the 2nd year of the pandemic? Specific demographics matter because, for example, risk of myocarditis for young boys is something between 1:2000 and 1:3800 but spread across the population it's supposedly something closer to 1:100,000 - so hopefully you get why that's an important factor, right? You understand that insights can easily be hidden (whether maliciously/purposefully or not) by generalized macro numbers? Likewise, what demographics was there a decrease in — and what demographics may there have been an increase in? I hope you understand math enough to understand that a 300% increase in one demographic may be completely washed out by a 80% decrease from another larger demographic? But you’re satisfied with a “32% reduction in suicides” as the final answer - why is that? Did you just not think it through enough, or what gives? Do you think anyone critically thinking through this, following scientific methods and statistics, is perhaps a [pejorative] “anti-vaxxer” - and so you automatically and lazily categorize them as such — and they’re soooo irritating because they counter the simplified mainstream narrative being perpetuated that you reach the impetus of saying “just stop” to someone looking for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth [so help you God; if you’re into that God concept]? Why I ask is that it’s crucial we figure out why people are so easily indoctrinated into ideology, as part of finding the solution to this intellectual-ideological crisis we’re currently in - which certainly ties into the general health crisis that we’re in [including obesity as a signal]. Or wait - I should listen to you and stop asking these pesky nuanced questions because? [I would have replied almost immediately to you but HN's rate limiting number of comments]
    - Tiktaalik 5y ago
      stop pushing against the health and safety measures that have helped Canada avoid the brutal death rates that America has.
      - loceng 5y ago
        Lazy response. Citations needed. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're talking out of your ass: respond to my specific points. Comorbidities play a major role in hospitalization and death and overall Canadians are healthier than Americans, for one point - but you're clearly not interested in deepening your understanding and put out lazy generalized statements like you just replied with - in an attempt to lazily demonize me. The lack of effort you put into being willing to engage should be a signal to yourself that you're not well-enough versed into actually making statements like you're making.
        Tiktaalik 5y ago
        You've convinced me. We need to open up. It's critical for people's mental health that people need to see marvel movies in theatre unmasked. dead bodies be damned.
        loceng 5y ago
        Oh wow, look at that, how surprising that you're being sarcastic and go to an all-or-nothing response that lacks nuance and critical thinking. "All-or-nothing thinking is one of many negative thought processes, known as cognitive distortions, that are common among people with anxiety and depression. When thinking in all-or-nothing terms, you split your views into extremes." Perhaps you have anxiety or are depressed and aren't capable of thinking critically on the issue?
        loceng 5y ago
        Since you don't seem to like to read much, here's a specific statistic that shows how the statistic you presented is grossly misrepresenting the situation by masking reality: "CDC saw 51% increase in suicide attempts by adolescent girls during pandemic [age 12-25]" https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/cdc-saw-51-increase-in-suicide-attempts-by-adolescent-girls-during-pandemic https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/cdc-saw-51-increase... And the source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm But who cares if there's more young girls killing themselves if less older people kill themselves, AMIRITE?
TwoNineA 5y ago
PCR tests are only done on essential workers so the real case number is WAY higher.
- errcorrectcode 5y ago
  rt RT-qPCR (faster, gene identification) or RT-PCR (slower, complete sequencing)? Where are we talking about?

loceng 5y ago

Tiktaalik 5y ago
suicides are way down. just stop. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-suicides-in-canada-fell-32-per-cent-in-first-year-of-pandemic-compared/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-suicides-in-c...
- loceng 5y ago
  Stop asking questions, stop having concerns and compassion for my fellow humans, stop conversation as part of scientific process? Who's more likely the person who should stop their behaviour - you or me? Alright, so that's one article - and across Canada - now what about specific demographics? What about the 2nd year of the pandemic? Specific demographics matter because, for example, risk of myocarditis for young boys is something between 1:2000 and 1:3800 but spread across the population it's supposedly something closer to 1:100,000 - so hopefully you get why that's an important factor, right? You understand that insights can easily be hidden (whether maliciously/purposefully or not) by generalized macro numbers? Likewise, what demographics was there a decrease in — and what demographics may there have been an increase in? I hope you understand math enough to understand that a 300% increase in one demographic may be completely washed out by a 80% decrease from another larger demographic? But you’re satisfied with a “32% reduction in suicides” as the final answer - why is that? Did you just not think it through enough, or what gives? Do you think anyone critically thinking through this, following scientific methods and statistics, is perhaps a [pejorative] “anti-vaxxer” - and so you automatically and lazily categorize them as such — and they’re soooo irritating because they counter the simplified mainstream narrative being perpetuated that you reach the impetus of saying “just stop” to someone looking for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth [so help you God; if you’re into that God concept]? Why I ask is that it’s crucial we figure out why people are so easily indoctrinated into ideology, as part of finding the solution to this intellectual-ideological crisis we’re currently in - which certainly ties into the general health crisis that we’re in [including obesity as a signal]. Or wait - I should listen to you and stop asking these pesky nuanced questions because? [I would have replied almost immediately to you but HN's rate limiting number of comments]
  - Tiktaalik 5y ago
    stop pushing against the health and safety measures that have helped Canada avoid the brutal death rates that America has.
    - loceng 5y ago
      Lazy response. Citations needed. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're talking out of your ass: respond to my specific points. Comorbidities play a major role in hospitalization and death and overall Canadians are healthier than Americans, for one point - but you're clearly not interested in deepening your understanding and put out lazy generalized statements like you just replied with - in an attempt to lazily demonize me. The lack of effort you put into being willing to engage should be a signal to yourself that you're not well-enough versed into actually making statements like you're making.
      - Tiktaalik 5y ago
        You've convinced me. We need to open up. It's critical for people's mental health that people need to see marvel movies in theatre unmasked. dead bodies be damned.
        loceng 5y ago
        Oh wow, look at that, how surprising that you're being sarcastic and go to an all-or-nothing response that lacks nuance and critical thinking. "All-or-nothing thinking is one of many negative thought processes, known as cognitive distortions, that are common among people with anxiety and depression. When thinking in all-or-nothing terms, you split your views into extremes." Perhaps you have anxiety or are depressed and aren't capable of thinking critically on the issue?
        loceng 5y ago
        Since you don't seem to like to read much, here's a specific statistic that shows how the statistic you presented is grossly misrepresenting the situation by masking reality: "CDC saw 51% increase in suicide attempts by adolescent girls during pandemic [age 12-25]" https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/cdc-saw-51-increase-in-suicide-attempts-by-adolescent-girls-during-pandemic https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/cdc-saw-51-increase... And the source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm But who cares if there's more young girls killing themselves if less older people kill themselves, AMIRITE?

TwoNineA 5y ago

PCR tests are only done on essential workers so the real case number is WAY higher.

errcorrectcode 5y ago
rt RT-qPCR (faster, gene identification) or RT-PCR (slower, complete sequencing)? Where are we talking about?