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ah, someone who shares my disdain for "hacker" "news"

by kache_ 5y ago

dang 5y ago
"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- undecisive 5y ago
  > "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. It might be worth pointing out that you are dismissing a comment discussing a page that is (likely) making a criticism of the HN rules by implying - without good reason - that it is instead a criticism of the community, and not a critique of the site rules and the kinds of content it promotes. Unless you're only meaning the "don't sneer" part - which is difficult to police among intellectuals, and if it's only policed at HN-directed criticism, is probably bad form. In short: "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."
  - dang 5y ago
    I'm sorry but I don't really follow what you're saying here. That the GP comment was a supercilious putdown seems completely obvious to me. Perceptions differ, of course.
ant6n 5y ago
Yet here you are
- skeptical2 5y ago
- sangnoir 5y ago
  There are some real gems & genuine insight to be found. But the comments still follow a Pareto distribution and there's a lot that is worth disdain[1], IMO. Besides, I found it's better when I don't take HN too seriously; I now often enjoy HN the way I "enjoy" Curb Your Enthusiasm 1. Often as a top comment too! A lot of inaccurate, stripped-of-nuance or outright ignorant hot takes get voted up if they confirm the biases of the majority of HN users.
  - vagrantJin 5y ago
    Whatever you feelings may be, HN brings a breath of fresh air. Compared to other social media, its quite rare for commentary to devolve into nonsense.
    - throwaway2048 5y ago
      Another possibility, you are bad at detecting nonsense
      - vagrantJin 5y ago
        Possibly. Though I generally would not catch nonsense about an 40-year old Microprocessor or some newfangled K8s setup. So perhaps I should phrase the claim differently. The "quality" of nonsense on HN is remarkably better than other social sites.
      - deleted 5y ago
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    - kache_ 5y ago
      - dang 5y ago
        The problem with comments like this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30088471 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30088471 is that they poison the ecosystem with more of the very thing you're complaining about, plus they lower the signal/noise ratio with tedious meta. Supercilious posturing over other people is bad for comments here because it's reliably uninteresting. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use the site more in the intended spirit? We're trying for curious conversation here.

ah, someone who shares my disdain for "hacker" "news"

by kache_ 5y ago

ah, someone who shares my disdain for "hacker" "news"

dang 5y ago

"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

undecisive 5y ago
> "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. It might be worth pointing out that you are dismissing a comment discussing a page that is (likely) making a criticism of the HN rules by implying - without good reason - that it is instead a criticism of the community, and not a critique of the site rules and the kinds of content it promotes. Unless you're only meaning the "don't sneer" part - which is difficult to police among intellectuals, and if it's only policed at HN-directed criticism, is probably bad form. In short: "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."
- dang 5y ago
  I'm sorry but I don't really follow what you're saying here. That the GP comment was a supercilious putdown seems completely obvious to me. Perceptions differ, of course.

ant6n 5y ago

Yet here you are

skeptical2 5y ago
sangnoir 5y ago
There are some real gems & genuine insight to be found. But the comments still follow a Pareto distribution and there's a lot that is worth disdain[1], IMO. Besides, I found it's better when I don't take HN too seriously; I now often enjoy HN the way I "enjoy" Curb Your Enthusiasm 1. Often as a top comment too! A lot of inaccurate, stripped-of-nuance or outright ignorant hot takes get voted up if they confirm the biases of the majority of HN users.
- vagrantJin 5y ago
  Whatever you feelings may be, HN brings a breath of fresh air. Compared to other social media, its quite rare for commentary to devolve into nonsense.
  - throwaway2048 5y ago
    Another possibility, you are bad at detecting nonsense
    - vagrantJin 5y ago
      Possibly. Though I generally would not catch nonsense about an 40-year old Microprocessor or some newfangled K8s setup. So perhaps I should phrase the claim differently. The "quality" of nonsense on HN is remarkably better than other social sites.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
  - kache_ 5y ago
    - dang 5y ago
      The problem with comments like this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30088471 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30088471 is that they poison the ecosystem with more of the very thing you're complaining about, plus they lower the signal/noise ratio with tedious meta. Supercilious posturing over other people is bad for comments here because it's reliably uninteresting. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use the site more in the intended spirit? We're trying for curious conversation here.