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> I’m changing the title of this page just to screw with mods on the orange website Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? I wonder what
by undecisive 5y ago
> I’m changing the title of this page just to screw with mods on the orange website
Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about?
I wonder what would be achievable, around the $15 mark WITHOUT needing a minimum order of 1000? (Presuming access to a 3d printer and a reasonably cheap PCB fab company)
- masklinn 5y ago> Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? In case that's a serious question: what website has an orange theme, and an aggressively enforced rule against editorialising submission titles?
- only4here 5y agowell yeah, but why would they want to block out the "orange website"?
- bryanlarsen 5y agoI don't think "screw with" means "block" in this case. But there is one moderately famous blog that does block HN: https://www.jwz.org/ https://www.jwz.org/
- wanderingjew 5y agoyeah I asked jwz how to do that, but I can't figure out a way to make that work with Github pages.
- Beltalowda 5y agoif (document.referrer === 'https://news.ycombinator.com/') window.location = 'https://cdn.jwz.org/images/2016/hn.png' Or something along those lines should work.
- shakna 5y agoHN helpfully uses the referrer, so you can easily do it with a tiny bit of JS: <script> if(document.referrer == "https://news.ycombinator.com/") { // Mess with HN users here... } </script>
- vidarh 5y agoView source on the linked website just now: <!-- DO HN STUFF HERE <script> if(document.referrer == "https://news.ycombinator.com/") { window.location = 'https://bbenchoff.github.io/images/Brogrammers.png' } </script> -->
- bryanlarsen 5y agoJWZ appears to use Apache, so he probably does something like http://www.htaccess-guide.com/deny-visitors-by-referrer/ http://www.htaccess-guide.com/deny-visitors-by-referrer/
- numpad0 5y agoThat is the way it was done back in the day, usually when admin wanted guests to not come through Google Search or to come through a correct word-of-mouth bouncer page. Client side JS implementations allow content to be viewed by blocking JS.
- demindiro 5y agoHe checks the Referer header[1]. In Firefox you can prevent that header from being sent by setting `network.http.sendRefererHeader` to 0 (in about:config). [1]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Referer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...
- Aissen 5y agoThey're not blocking it out, they are protesting the weird, variable, "original title" policy. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- lgeorget 5y agoEver since I've found that I can change the color of the top bar in my profile, the site has been every color but orange to me. :D
- hdjjhhvvhga 5y agoYeah I changed it to green but the orange Y in the top left-hand corner drives me nuts.
- bambax 5y agoIncredibly, it's a gif. They could at least change it for a png with transparent color...
- undecisive 5y agoSame here, but my browser still uses orange as the theme colour for HN, which is interesting - I guess it grabs the dominant colour from the favicon (it even does it on sites that try to set the meta theme-color, which is interesting)
- MikusR 5y agoI would also want to know. Because news.ycombinator.com is quite selective about the enforcement.
- undecisive 5y agoThe comment was pure sarcasm - but kind of you to check!
- orangepenguin 5y agoWhat was the title previously? I'm not sure I understand the significance of the current title.
- nerdponx 5y agoSome people really hate Hacker News for no intelligent reasons that I can tell.
- waiseristy 5y agoThey usually hate it because of the people who post here
- donio 5y agoI wouldn't say that I hate the site but when I am unhappy with it it's not because of what gets posted but what gets upvoted.
- jacquesm 5y agoWith zero submissions in 12 years I think you have the solution right at your fingertips.
- caslon 5y agoThat would only be true if votes were a limited resource. There's no real "competition" here. Something good getting upvoted doesn't stop absolute trash from getting upvoted. donio posting something incredible wouldn't mean it would offset something awful; it would just slightly change the timeslot of the awful thing. Articles that go deep into technical subjects generally stay on the front page for half of the time of trendy lightweight posts.
- nerdponx 5y agoTrying to mess with the moderators specifically suggests some kind of deeper ire.
- foxfluff 5y ago> What orange website could they be talking about? I wouldn't know, my topcolor is B5DB5D.
- sokoloff 5y ago> I wonder what would be achievable, around the $15 mark WITHOUT needing a minimum order of 1000? A Raspberry Pi Zero?
- cwt137 5y agoRaspberry Pi Foundation does the "minimum order of 1000" and passes the savings on to you. Try and buy all the individual components of a RPi Zero and see how much it costs. It is way more than $15. P.S. The RPi Zero does not come with a display and keyboard like the computer in this article does. So, we are talking about two different types of computers.
- nousermane 5y ago$15 is a pretty good guess for per-unit cost of mass-produced RPi0, I reckon. Look at the price of "WH" version with superficial changes that cost pennies to add (wifi chip and 0.1" header), and (used to be) easily obtainable with no limit on the order size. Or, at least that was the status quo before the the great chip shortage of 2021.
- dhosek 5y agoI was thinking about the fact that 40 years ago there was the Sinclair ZX80, a $100 computer that you could hook to your TV and there's not really a whole lot in that space/price point¹ now other than the hobbyist Raspberry Pi/arduino/other hobbyist machines. I'd have to think that it's possible to make a consumer-grade PC that you hook up to your own monitor for around $100, although I guess the cost of a Windows license is an obstacle to that. Surely someone could build a windows PC (or I guess Linux) that's inside a keyboard enclosure for around $100 that could be commercially successful now. ⸻ 1. We can ignore inflation adjustments because computer prices have generally stayed flat or gone down (the rule used to be that the PC you wanted was around $2000–3000 and nowadays if we're talking about a desktop system, assuming one even specs such a thing, it's less than that).
- shakna 5y ago> Surely someone could build a windows PC (or I guess Linux) that's inside a keyboard enclosure for around $100 that could be commercially successful now. Raspberry Pi actually did that. [0] The RPi 400 is right around that $100 mark, fully assembled, and is basically a keyboard with a bunch of ports for the people who end up with it. [0] https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-400/ https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-400/
- kache_ 5y agoah, someone who shares my disdain for "hacker" "news"
- dang 5y ago"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- undecisive 5y ago> "Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads. It might be worth pointing out that you are dismissing a comment discussing a page that is (likely) making a criticism of the HN rules by implying - without good reason - that it is instead a criticism of the community, and not a critique of the site rules and the kinds of content it promotes. Unless you're only meaning the "don't sneer" part - which is difficult to police among intellectuals, and if it's only policed at HN-directed criticism, is probably bad form. In short: "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."
- dang 5y agoI'm sorry but I don't really follow what you're saying here. That the GP comment was a supercilious putdown seems completely obvious to me. Perceptions differ, of course.
- ant6n 5y agoYet here you are
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- jsheard 5y agoAdvanced HN mod troll: write a dozen slightly different titles and pick a random one on page load
- addaon 5y agoArs Technica basically does this (with two headlines), since the Conde Nast acquisition. Drives me nuts, and makes a significant portion of the post-article discussion incomprehensible.
- whatshisface 5y agoThere's something so hilarious about the idea of an HN thread full of people who only read the title, while the website is A/B testing ten different titles.
- vidarh 5y agoI'm looking forward to the GPT3 generated titles using a prompt that involves something along the lines of "Given this excerpt of the HN discussion: .... This is the most amusing title: ..."
- tyho 5y agoPick one deterministically based on src IP address for extra annoyance.
- hyperpallium2 5y agoThere is another theory which states that this has already happened.
- adolph 5y agoIt might kill a cat to find out.
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- Inhibit 5y agoAs the practical build here shows you simply need 15$ and one capable engineer. To be fair you'll also need something to tool a case out of, be it FDM or extractive machining.
- jacquesm 5y agoCardboard & glue will do. Otherwise, carve it out of balsa.
- hungryforcodes 5y agohttp://www.orangepi.org/ http://www.orangepi.org/ ? Pretty much a possible competitor. I have several OrangePi boards...and they run linux and cost me around $15.
- ant6n 5y agoMore powerful, but no keyboard and display.
- hungryforcodes 5y agoTotally agree. But are they really DELIVERING a final product with keyboard, main board and display for $15? THAT is the real question.
- billiam 5y agoSaid the guy or gal typing on a keyboard and reading the response on a display. Solved problem?
- berkes 5y agoA strange argument to make. I have a laptop that I got for free from my father in law. But that does not mean one can 'get a Linux machine for €0.00'.
- utopcell 5y agoThe argument is they already have a keyboard and a display ? Guess what, they also have a computer.
- ant6n 5y agothe machine that message was typed on did not cost 15$.
- jqpabc123 5y ago... access to a 3d printer Printer filament itself costs about $10USD per pound. And then there is the inevitable one or two misprints. Not to mention the time needed to print the item. If you looking for cheap, low volume 3D printing ain't it.
- kube-system 5y ago3d-printing is very expensive in terms of variable costs but super cheap in terms of fixed costs. For low volumes, the math is usually in favor of 3d printing.
- CyberRabbi 5y agoWhat is the recent trend of website users not using the actual names of the websites they use? >the orange site >the bird site Are these pet names? Is this passive aggressive contempt? Or is this an inside joke that I don’t get?
- Kye 5y agoAdding dramatic flair is a timeless hobby. Like most things, it gets shorter with time. It's basically: That den of capitalist hubris, the Mart of Wally For a new era.
- Karrot_Kream 5y agoIt's passive aggressive contempt. They're pretty commonly used in leftist online circles to gently insult the original sites.
- vagrantJin 5y agoI would skew towards inside joke pet names For a few reasons. Firstly, sometimes a shot needs to be taken at said websites and there are people who work there who will be reading it. Secondly, because inside jokes are the best jokes.
- schwartzworld 5y ago> the orange site This one isn't new to me. My old boss used to call it that.
- utopcell 5y agoFor q1, nothing: shipping would be more than that.
- sigmaprimus 5y agoI don't get it, is this just some sort of experiment for messing with forums or is there an actual product here? I can't even buy a keyboard for $15 anymore since inflation took off. So yeah if in fact this is a real product I'll throw a few bucks at it to help make it happen.