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Ok, so if suppressed symptoms means less likely to spread it- then restrictions based on vaccination status mean nothing. Restrictions based on symptoms are the

Ok, so if suppressed symptoms means less likely to spread it- then restrictions based on vaccination status mean nothing. Restrictions based on symptoms are the only restrictions that make sense. I'm not arguing with you, but just pointing out one of the most ridiculous things that I'm currently going through here in Chicago. I am not allowed to workout at a gym, sit down and eat at a restaurant, but if I'm vaccinated, even if I'm sick, I can live my life unrestricted. I am now driving an extra 20 miles daily to workout as my partner was kicked from her gym for not being vaccinated. Great for the environment. Meanwhile- she caught covid a few weeks ago, and despite being pregnant, was recovered within 2 days. We isolated for a week, and I never had symptoms whatsoever. Natural immunity. Meanwhile, and this is anecdotal, but everyone we know that has has had a really bad time with covid during the past month, has also been vaccinated and boosted. And if they had mild cases, they didn't isolate like we did- they just assumed that they were fine because they are vaccinated. But we are the selfish ones.

bhouston 5y ago
You wrote: "Meanwhile, and this is anecdotal, but everyone we know that has has had a really bad time with covid during the past month, has also been vaccinated and boosted" Death is 10x more likely if you are not vaccinated, your anecdote aside: https://twitter.com/OurWorldInData/status/1486076680619937795 https://twitter.com/OurWorldInData/status/148607668061993779...
- yonaguska 5y ago
  Without controlling for age and comorbidities, this doesn't mean much. You can break down by age, but the categories are ridiculously broad, 18-49, then narrower age bands afterwards. Another breakdown that we will never see is the data broken down by death within two weeks of any shot(lumped in with unvaccinated) and death after full vaccination lapses. Which is an ever shortening window. Finally, how are the denominators being calculated? For the United States, we are basically guessing at this point, given that we only have an insanely large range of estimated undocumented people in the country alone.

bhouston 5y ago

You wrote: "Meanwhile, and this is anecdotal, but everyone we know that has has had a really bad time with covid during the past month, has also been vaccinated and boosted" Death is 10x more likely if you are not vaccinated, your anecdote aside: https://twitter.com/OurWorldInData/status/1486076680619937795 https://twitter.com/OurWorldInData/status/148607668061993779...

yonaguska 5y ago
Without controlling for age and comorbidities, this doesn't mean much. You can break down by age, but the categories are ridiculously broad, 18-49, then narrower age bands afterwards. Another breakdown that we will never see is the data broken down by death within two weeks of any shot(lumped in with unvaccinated) and death after full vaccination lapses. Which is an ever shortening window. Finally, how are the denominators being calculated? For the United States, we are basically guessing at this point, given that we only have an insanely large range of estimated undocumented people in the country alone.