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At this point, “3” represents a tiny fraction of the population so isn’t even really worth breaking out

walterbell 5y ago
To the contrary, #3 includes everyone receiving a booster, because immune system suppression/DoS immediately after a vaccine makes it the period of highest risk for both infection (from Covid or anything else) and vaccine injury. If we don't have separate reporting for #3, those negative effects will be attributed to #4. How many people know they should minimize physical exertion and crowds for 14 days post-vax?
- xadhominemx 5y ago
  Ok, that’s different from the definition you just provided but in any event it’s still a very small proportion of the population
  - walterbell 5y ago
    > it’s still a very small proportion of the population At present yes, but this was 100% of the now-vax population at a prior point in time (everyone passes through #3 to enter #2), so it should be separated in the historical record.
    - xadhominemx 5y ago
      Everyone “passes through” the 10 second duration during which the vaccine is actually being collected, but we don’t collect statistics on those people
      - walterbell 5y ago
        If you're comparing the duration of an injection with the medically and legally mandated 14-day period of exclusion, look into the scientific reasons for the 14-day period.
        xadhominemx 5y ago
        The 10 second and 14 day period both have approximately the same effect on aggregate statistics, which is zero
- daveguy 5y ago
  > How many people know they should minimize physical exertion and crowds for 14 days post-vax? I didn't know that. What's the source for that medical advice?
  - walterbell 5y ago
    Jul 2021 in the context of myocarditis risk for men, https://www.leisureopportunities.co.uk/news/Should-people-avoid-exercise-after-getting-Pfizer-or-Moderna-vaccines/348113 https://www.leisureopportunities.co.uk/news/Should-people-av... > The government of Singapore has become the first to recommend that people who've received the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine should avoid strenuous physical activity after getting their shots, something of urgent importance to gym operators as vaccine programmes continue to roll out around the world. Transient blood clots, lymphocytopenia, similar to a Covid infection: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29216083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29216083
xienze 5y ago
It's actually larger than you'd think, because OP didn't also include "only one of the first two shots" in the "partially vaccinated" category.
- xadhominemx 5y ago
  That’s a fair point. Between shot one and two weeks after shot two is meaningful
Mountain_Skies 5y ago
How do you know that?

To the contrary, #3 includes everyone receiving a booster, because immune system suppression/DoS immediately after a vaccine makes it the period of highest risk for both infection (from Covid or anything else) and vaccine injury. If we don't have separate reporting for #3, those negative effects will be attributed to #4. How many people know they should minimize physical exertion and crowds for 14 days post-vax?

xadhominemx 5y ago
Ok, that’s different from the definition you just provided but in any event it’s still a very small proportion of the population
- walterbell 5y ago
  > it’s still a very small proportion of the population At present yes, but this was 100% of the now-vax population at a prior point in time (everyone passes through #3 to enter #2), so it should be separated in the historical record.
  - xadhominemx 5y ago
    Everyone “passes through” the 10 second duration during which the vaccine is actually being collected, but we don’t collect statistics on those people
    - walterbell 5y ago
      If you're comparing the duration of an injection with the medically and legally mandated 14-day period of exclusion, look into the scientific reasons for the 14-day period.
      - xadhominemx 5y ago
        The 10 second and 14 day period both have approximately the same effect on aggregate statistics, which is zero
daveguy 5y ago
> How many people know they should minimize physical exertion and crowds for 14 days post-vax? I didn't know that. What's the source for that medical advice?
- walterbell 5y ago
  Jul 2021 in the context of myocarditis risk for men, https://www.leisureopportunities.co.uk/news/Should-people-avoid-exercise-after-getting-Pfizer-or-Moderna-vaccines/348113 https://www.leisureopportunities.co.uk/news/Should-people-av... > The government of Singapore has become the first to recommend that people who've received the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine should avoid strenuous physical activity after getting their shots, something of urgent importance to gym operators as vaccine programmes continue to roll out around the world. Transient blood clots, lymphocytopenia, similar to a Covid infection: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29216083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29216083

xienze 5y ago

It's actually larger than you'd think, because OP didn't also include "only one of the first two shots" in the "partially vaccinated" category.

xadhominemx 5y ago
That’s a fair point. Between shot one and two weeks after shot two is meaningful

Mountain_Skies 5y ago

How do you know that?