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I did that until I updated the wifi in my house. There’s a combination wired/wireless wire plate under my desk, but I don’t bother wiring it into my work comput

I did that until I updated the wifi in my house. There’s a combination wired/wireless wire plate under my desk, but I don’t bother wiring it into my work computer, because the wifi is faster than what the cheap USB C adapter can offer.

falcolas 5y ago
Faster and lower latency are not the same things. > the cheap USB C adapter I have to ask, what kind of internet speeds do you have where even a cheap wired adapter can't beat it? That's pretty incredible.
- duxup 5y ago
  You getting a lot of latency over wifi? I find wifi almost entirely dies around the time I get wonky latency... but having said that everyone's wifi situation is different depending on network, building / home structure and etc.
- ashtonkem 5y ago
  950 down, 50 up. Wifi will pull 450 easy, but my hub will only do 100, despite claims to the contrary. 450 is good enough for my use case, so it’s easier to just not worry about it and avoid running another wire up the sit stand desk. If I upgrade my hub to something that’ll pull the claimed 1G, I might change. Or maybe not. I dunno. Literally nothing I do on the internet can get close to saturating it. Edit: wifi adds a mere 5ms of latency in my office. I consider this beneath my notice for basically everything but gaming. And even there it probably is meaningless given my relatively low skill level.
  - falcolas 5y ago
    > my hub will only do 100 Oof, that sucks. 5ms per round trip adds up, especially when you add in every other source of latency in your chain. I've also found that, thanks to general RF noise from everything being wireless these days, latency spikes occur much more often over wi-fi than wired. YMMV, of course. Always worth measuring your own experience.
    - ashtonkem 5y ago
      I went back to wireless specifically because I was noticing issues on that hub. I went to the trouble to setup control plane to disable wifi when Ethernet was plugged in, and zoom performance tanked. Going back to wifi solved it. I think that the adapter was dropping packets, but I never bothered to triage since wifi works great in this house. It’s worth mentioning that my setup has very, very low latency. Lag between me and the speed test server in city is 5ms wired, 10ms wireless. My router is way overpowered for what I ask of it, so throughput and latency tends to be very good. To be fair, my wifi setup is a bit … extra. I’m running 5 APs, two switches, a controller, and a dedicated router, with a dedicated AP for my office that’s a combo wired/wireless outlet. I’ve turned it down so that it’s basically only serving my office, and it has a dedicated cat6 backhaul to the network cabinet, no sharing airspace with other APs. If I hadn’t gone to all this trouble, I’d probably upgrade my hub and go wired.
  - vel0city 5y ago
    If your dock is only able to negotiate a 100Mbit connection despite theoretically being 1000Mbit, and you're experiencing dropped packets, it might not be your dock. That sounds like an issue with ethernet cabling. Bad cabling will usually result in ports not being able to negotiate their max potential throughput, and sometimes they'll negotiate higher than what they can realistically do.
    - ashtonkem 5y ago
      It’s not the cable. Same exact cable to other nearby machines gets the maximum throughput. It might be the laptop. That machine has always been more finicky than other laptops I’ve had, and it’s way less stable than my Mac mini.

falcolas 5y ago

Faster and lower latency are not the same things. > the cheap USB C adapter I have to ask, what kind of internet speeds do you have where even a cheap wired adapter can't beat it? That's pretty incredible.

duxup 5y ago
You getting a lot of latency over wifi? I find wifi almost entirely dies around the time I get wonky latency... but having said that everyone's wifi situation is different depending on network, building / home structure and etc.
ashtonkem 5y ago
950 down, 50 up. Wifi will pull 450 easy, but my hub will only do 100, despite claims to the contrary. 450 is good enough for my use case, so it’s easier to just not worry about it and avoid running another wire up the sit stand desk. If I upgrade my hub to something that’ll pull the claimed 1G, I might change. Or maybe not. I dunno. Literally nothing I do on the internet can get close to saturating it. Edit: wifi adds a mere 5ms of latency in my office. I consider this beneath my notice for basically everything but gaming. And even there it probably is meaningless given my relatively low skill level.
- falcolas 5y ago
  > my hub will only do 100 Oof, that sucks. 5ms per round trip adds up, especially when you add in every other source of latency in your chain. I've also found that, thanks to general RF noise from everything being wireless these days, latency spikes occur much more often over wi-fi than wired. YMMV, of course. Always worth measuring your own experience.
  - ashtonkem 5y ago
    I went back to wireless specifically because I was noticing issues on that hub. I went to the trouble to setup control plane to disable wifi when Ethernet was plugged in, and zoom performance tanked. Going back to wifi solved it. I think that the adapter was dropping packets, but I never bothered to triage since wifi works great in this house. It’s worth mentioning that my setup has very, very low latency. Lag between me and the speed test server in city is 5ms wired, 10ms wireless. My router is way overpowered for what I ask of it, so throughput and latency tends to be very good. To be fair, my wifi setup is a bit … extra. I’m running 5 APs, two switches, a controller, and a dedicated router, with a dedicated AP for my office that’s a combo wired/wireless outlet. I’ve turned it down so that it’s basically only serving my office, and it has a dedicated cat6 backhaul to the network cabinet, no sharing airspace with other APs. If I hadn’t gone to all this trouble, I’d probably upgrade my hub and go wired.
- vel0city 5y ago
  If your dock is only able to negotiate a 100Mbit connection despite theoretically being 1000Mbit, and you're experiencing dropped packets, it might not be your dock. That sounds like an issue with ethernet cabling. Bad cabling will usually result in ports not being able to negotiate their max potential throughput, and sometimes they'll negotiate higher than what they can realistically do.
  - ashtonkem 5y ago
    It’s not the cable. Same exact cable to other nearby machines gets the maximum throughput. It might be the laptop. That machine has always been more finicky than other laptops I’ve had, and it’s way less stable than my Mac mini.