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This is not same. The non vaccinated are actively choosing to be a danger to people around them. It is like actively carrying concealed unlicensed gun which c

by achow 5y ago

This is not same. The non vaccinated are actively choosing to be a danger to people around them. It is like actively carrying concealed unlicensed gun which can silently and anynomously fire at people.

rob74 5y ago
I'm vaccinated myself and basically I have the same opinion as you. But David Bennett also actively chose to stab someone seven times in 1988 - "only" leaving him paralyzed, but probably with the intent to kill him? Ok, he probably served time for that and it was a long time ago, so judicially you can consider him rehabilitated. My argument was that once you refuse to treat (former) criminals, that's a slippery slope. And apparently I was right, since some here seem to consider people who choose not to get vaccinated worse that violent criminals...
- op00to 5y ago
  Worse? No. The unvaccinated are far more likely to get sick or die as a part of any medical procedure right now just because of the base risk of COVID in hospitals. If you can’t take the first step to protect yourself and others, there’s not much health care providers can do to change your mind.
jlawson 5y ago
I think you're confused on what the word 'actively' means.
- achow 5y ago
  'Actively' seems to be accurate for the scenario when one is choosing to make body conducive to incubate virus, or already incubating them (albeit unknowingly if asymptomatic). [Edit] And if you meant active in context of 'Active shooter', then still use of the word active is not wrong. Virus laden body is like carrying a concealed gun which is on 'auto pilot', it is actively spraying bullets; it IS active all the while.
  - InvertedRhodium 5y ago
    I can't think of a single person I know that hasn't ducked down to the shops to pick something up when they have the flu. By your definition, they are actively attempting to cause harm to others - which is an interesting take.
    - sersi 5y ago
      Even before covid, I would always wear a mask if I had a flu and would try as much as possible not to go to shops or pick up anything. A lot of people I know do the same.
    - op00to 5y ago
      I haven’t “ducked down to the shops” when I’m ill. It’s not that hard to keep necessities around.
Razengan 5y ago
> This is not same. > The non vaccinated are actively choosing to be a danger to people around them. > It is like actively carrying concealed unlicensed gun which can silently and anynomously fire at people. What about giving a life extension to someone who stabs other people? The recipient of the heart transplant, David Bennett, actively chose to be a danger to people around him.
- achow 5y ago
  Yes. Why not stick to that topic. Why to conflate by bringing in vaccine one?

by achow 5y ago

rob74 5y ago

I'm vaccinated myself and basically I have the same opinion as you. But David Bennett also actively chose to stab someone seven times in 1988 - "only" leaving him paralyzed, but probably with the intent to kill him? Ok, he probably served time for that and it was a long time ago, so judicially you can consider him rehabilitated. My argument was that once you refuse to treat (former) criminals, that's a slippery slope. And apparently I was right, since some here seem to consider people who choose not to get vaccinated worse that violent criminals...

op00to 5y ago
Worse? No. The unvaccinated are far more likely to get sick or die as a part of any medical procedure right now just because of the base risk of COVID in hospitals. If you can’t take the first step to protect yourself and others, there’s not much health care providers can do to change your mind.

jlawson 5y ago

I think you're confused on what the word 'actively' means.

achow 5y ago
'Actively' seems to be accurate for the scenario when one is choosing to make body conducive to incubate virus, or already incubating them (albeit unknowingly if asymptomatic). [Edit] And if you meant active in context of 'Active shooter', then still use of the word active is not wrong. Virus laden body is like carrying a concealed gun which is on 'auto pilot', it is actively spraying bullets; it IS active all the while.
- InvertedRhodium 5y ago
  I can't think of a single person I know that hasn't ducked down to the shops to pick something up when they have the flu. By your definition, they are actively attempting to cause harm to others - which is an interesting take.
  - sersi 5y ago
    Even before covid, I would always wear a mask if I had a flu and would try as much as possible not to go to shops or pick up anything. A lot of people I know do the same.
  - op00to 5y ago
    I haven’t “ducked down to the shops” when I’m ill. It’s not that hard to keep necessities around.

Razengan 5y ago

> This is not same. > The non vaccinated are actively choosing to be a danger to people around them. > It is like actively carrying concealed unlicensed gun which can silently and anynomously fire at people. What about giving a life extension to someone who stabs other people? The recipient of the heart transplant, David Bennett, actively chose to be a danger to people around him.

achow 5y ago
Yes. Why not stick to that topic. Why to conflate by bringing in vaccine one?