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> we refuse to build more of it We also refuse to move to cheaper places. I still think from time to time, "what's stopping 10k smart young people from just mo

> we refuse to build more of it We also refuse to move to cheaper places. I still think from time to time, "what's stopping 10k smart young people from just moving into empty land?"

aperson_hello 5y ago
In one word: Infrastructure. Roads and water and sewer and electrical lines are expensive. The better question is: What's stopping those same 10k smart young people from moving to Detroit?
- cjbgkagh 5y ago
  Land taxes
patmcc 5y ago
It's easy to be the ten-thousandth, it's hard to be the first.
cjbgkagh 5y ago
I think Madison Avenue style advertising is far more effective than commonly given credit for. Even if you personally avoid the brain washing, it’s not just you, it’s your family, friends, partners etc. All encouraged to live a more expensive lifestyle.
TulliusCicero 5y ago
Infrastructure, jobs, coordination, state and local regulations, capital. The list goes on. Your comment is a particularly egregious example of, "I could do that in a weekend." Internet commenters tend to blithely assume hard things are easy.
- maerF0x0 5y ago
  I definitely couldnt do it in a weekend. But I have been wondering how new cities are born, like not a suburb beside an existing city, but the ones that are in the middle of "no where". And what would stop a few thousand people from having a mutual interest to start something in the middle of no where? Most of the jobs could be remote save for the ones that support the citizens themselves. maybe this would fail for the same reason those preplanned cities in china failed? IDK. I'm definitely not implying it's dead easy, just that maybe it's easier than fitting 1M more people in a city that is already dense and full of NIMBYs?
  - TulliusCicero 5y ago
    It would fail, or at least be hard, for the reasons I listed.
    - maerF0x0 5y ago
      What if those 10k people put up capital kinda like buying a new build home? Like what if we somehow sold 10 thousand condos at $100k each. If I didnt make a mistake thats about $1B of capital to prepare the place for them to live. If China can build a prefab hotel in 36 hours, I would think we could pull it off too...

> we refuse to build more of it We also refuse to move to cheaper places. I still think from time to time, "what's stopping 10k smart young people from just moving into empty land?"

aperson_hello 5y ago

In one word: Infrastructure. Roads and water and sewer and electrical lines are expensive. The better question is: What's stopping those same 10k smart young people from moving to Detroit?

cjbgkagh 5y ago
Land taxes

patmcc 5y ago

It's easy to be the ten-thousandth, it's hard to be the first.

cjbgkagh 5y ago

I think Madison Avenue style advertising is far more effective than commonly given credit for. Even if you personally avoid the brain washing, it’s not just you, it’s your family, friends, partners etc. All encouraged to live a more expensive lifestyle.

TulliusCicero 5y ago

Infrastructure, jobs, coordination, state and local regulations, capital. The list goes on. Your comment is a particularly egregious example of, "I could do that in a weekend." Internet commenters tend to blithely assume hard things are easy.

maerF0x0 5y ago
I definitely couldnt do it in a weekend. But I have been wondering how new cities are born, like not a suburb beside an existing city, but the ones that are in the middle of "no where". And what would stop a few thousand people from having a mutual interest to start something in the middle of no where? Most of the jobs could be remote save for the ones that support the citizens themselves. maybe this would fail for the same reason those preplanned cities in china failed? IDK. I'm definitely not implying it's dead easy, just that maybe it's easier than fitting 1M more people in a city that is already dense and full of NIMBYs?
- TulliusCicero 5y ago
  It would fail, or at least be hard, for the reasons I listed.
  - maerF0x0 5y ago
    What if those 10k people put up capital kinda like buying a new build home? Like what if we somehow sold 10 thousand condos at $100k each. If I didnt make a mistake thats about $1B of capital to prepare the place for them to live. If China can build a prefab hotel in 36 hours, I would think we could pull it off too...