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> He didn't say anything about ongoing negotiations led by the EU. Could be (and probably is) other parties. Seems naive to think the EU is not included. > t

> He didn't say anything about ongoing negotiations led by the EU. Could be (and probably is) other parties. Seems naive to think the EU is not included. > the Russians are trying to split the EU They already are. A glance at F24 vs. DW will tell you that. With Germany importing half of their gas from Russia (or more now?) and France barely importing any, it's really not surprising. And there will be all kinds of small differences like that in relation to Russia. > Lavrov "leaked" their proposals Link? > Now the Russians are talking mostly to the US, but also not really talking to anyone, only repeating their tropes. That would makes sense, as US leads NATO and that's their concern, but also no they've been talking to Germany and will be with France on Friday. But realistically they're all talking all the time. That's how these things work. Anything else is just fantasy.

tpm 5y ago
> Seems naive to think the EU is not included. No it's not, seems naive to think the EU is included, that would be contrary to the longstanding Russian opposition to multilateralism. That goes back to the kicking the Soviets got from joining the OSCE in the 70's. Which was originally their idea, but didn't go so well. > Link? for example here: "In November, the ministry actually published its correspondence with France and Germany on Ukraine — 28 pages of diplomatic documents that were supposed to stay confidential (an echo of the famous Bolshevik move to reveal the secret diplomatic documents of the czarist government in 1917)." https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/01/russia-fsb-power-ukraine/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/01/russia-fs...