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> It’s mild. Everybody is getting it and that strains hospitals but it’s a mild illness and many infected people won’t even be tested let alone seek treatment.

by fivea 5y ago

> It’s mild. Everybody is getting it and that strains hospitals but it’s a mild illness and many infected people won’t even be tested let alone seek treatment. It really is not. It's mild to double- and triple-vaccinated individuals living in highly vaccinated populations. They get the shot, they brush it aside The poor souls who didn't managed to get vaccinated, or didn't wanted to, represent the bulk of the hospitalized population and deaths. The key factor is that the world has spent the last year bulking on vaccines, precisely to allow any infection to be at most mild. And now that we're seeing highly vaccinated populations being exposed and developing mostly mild cases are we now supposed to pretend that vaccines don't exist and the disease suddenly got tame? In whose head does this even compute?

encoderer 5y ago
I believe you truly have bought the full narrative. I’m boosted I’m not anti vax but I’ll give you one data point that contradicts your claim: South Africa vax rate is 52%. Their health officials have declared it to be mild. It’s mild.
- dang 5y ago
  Please make your substantive points without personal swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Closi 5y ago
> The poor souls who didn't managed to get vaccinated, or didn't wanted to, represent the bulk of the hospitalized population and deaths. This is only part of the picture - it's actually the people that are unvaccinated and are very old or have comorbidities that represent the majority of deaths. But we also shouldn't exclude that a large majority of people are dying with Covid-19 at the moment rather than because of Covid (i.e. as c20% of deaths at the moment are within a month of a positive covid test, and c5% of the population likely had Covid in the last month, we can imply that 5% of deaths would have Covid anyway if it had no impact on morbidity, so about 25% (at least) of those Covid deaths are people dying with covid. This is likely an underestimate considering Covid is probably spreading in hospitals).

by fivea 5y ago

encoderer 5y ago

I believe you truly have bought the full narrative. I’m boosted I’m not anti vax but I’ll give you one data point that contradicts your claim: South Africa vax rate is 52%. Their health officials have declared it to be mild. It’s mild.

dang 5y ago
Please make your substantive points without personal swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Closi 5y ago

> The poor souls who didn't managed to get vaccinated, or didn't wanted to, represent the bulk of the hospitalized population and deaths. This is only part of the picture - it's actually the people that are unvaccinated and are very old or have comorbidities that represent the majority of deaths. But we also shouldn't exclude that a large majority of people are dying with Covid-19 at the moment rather than because of Covid (i.e. as c20% of deaths at the moment are within a month of a positive covid test, and c5% of the population likely had Covid in the last month, we can imply that 5% of deaths would have Covid anyway if it had no impact on morbidity, so about 25% (at least) of those Covid deaths are people dying with covid. This is likely an underestimate considering Covid is probably spreading in hospitals).