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It would appear that a country that is over 90% vaccinated and 60% boosted is having ~440 deaths a day with roughly 15k admitted to the hospital (ignoring simpl

by kurthr 5y ago

It would appear that a country that is over 90% vaccinated and 60% boosted is having ~440 deaths a day with roughly 15k admitted to the hospital (ignoring simple ER visits) that week. It's worth noting that the 10% unvaccinated (even though skewed younger) are ~5x overrepresented at ~50% of the hospitalizations. It's about half as high as the peak last Jan although ventilators are less in use and treatments are better. From your dashboard: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

kurthr 5y ago
Actually, now I'm intrigued. It would appear that the total annual death rate in the UK is about 135k/yr or 370/day. So the last couple of weeks of the current Omicron wave exceeds the typical average death rate from all causes from 2010-2018 (scaled for population). https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/leadingcausesofdeathuk/2001to2018 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan...
- MikeAmelung 5y ago
  Close, you're only off by ~465,000
iso1210 5y ago
Pre covid, the UK typically had 1400 deaths a day in the winter. It's a little higher at the moment, but nowhere near 400. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1048504/Weekly_report_mortality__W3.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... Be careful about who is in covid because of non-covid reasons that just happen to have covid, compared with those who are in hospital because of covid.
- kurthr 5y ago
  Did you look at that plot on page 2? Choosing what certainly looks like a single dramatic outlier point which is 2 weeks older than the dashboard certainly seems like cherry picking. Just look at the current dashboard data it shows ~440 deaths per day for the last 2 weeks. Again: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ Also note that there almost aren't deaths from other flus over the last 2 years, likely because they don't have an R value >1 due to masking etc. Look, I'm all for getting back to normal and letting the unvaccinated (and old, poor, sick) die off as god intended, but let's not pretend it's all due to a lack of joyful evenings in the pub.
native_samples 5y ago
Up to 70% of the "COVID patients" in UK hospitals at the moment are there for other reasons: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/20/call-scrap-daily-covid-data-updates-amid-fears-increasingly/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/20/call-scrap-daily... "Call to phase out statistics comes as it emerges that up to 70pc of virus patients in hospital being primarily treated for other problems"

by kurthr 5y ago

kurthr 5y ago

Actually, now I'm intrigued. It would appear that the total annual death rate in the UK is about 135k/yr or 370/day. So the last couple of weeks of the current Omicron wave exceeds the typical average death rate from all causes from 2010-2018 (scaled for population). https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/leadingcausesofdeathuk/2001to2018 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan...

MikeAmelung 5y ago
Close, you're only off by ~465,000

iso1210 5y ago

Pre covid, the UK typically had 1400 deaths a day in the winter. It's a little higher at the moment, but nowhere near 400. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1048504/Weekly_report_mortality__W3.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... Be careful about who is in covid because of non-covid reasons that just happen to have covid, compared with those who are in hospital because of covid.

kurthr 5y ago
Did you look at that plot on page 2? Choosing what certainly looks like a single dramatic outlier point which is 2 weeks older than the dashboard certainly seems like cherry picking. Just look at the current dashboard data it shows ~440 deaths per day for the last 2 weeks. Again: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ Also note that there almost aren't deaths from other flus over the last 2 years, likely because they don't have an R value >1 due to masking etc. Look, I'm all for getting back to normal and letting the unvaccinated (and old, poor, sick) die off as god intended, but let's not pretend it's all due to a lack of joyful evenings in the pub.

native_samples 5y ago

Up to 70% of the "COVID patients" in UK hospitals at the moment are there for other reasons: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/20/call-scrap-daily-covid-data-updates-amid-fears-increasingly/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/20/call-scrap-daily... "Call to phase out statistics comes as it emerges that up to 70pc of virus patients in hospital being primarily treated for other problems"