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Nope. That's vaccine immunity. Let's get our terms right. Also, you can infect others presymptomatically with the vaccine. With omicron, it looks like asymptom

Nope. That's vaccine immunity. Let's get our terms right. Also, you can infect others presymptomatically with the vaccine. With omicron, it looks like asymptomatic transmission also occurs. Don't worry. I've researched this. You're not the first person in this world to try to make others feel guilty for not getting the vaccine. The problem is you don't have a ton of science backing your guilt trip.

vannevar 5y ago
- spurgu 5y ago
  Vaccine-induced immunity is against the particular spike protein of the first Covid variant. The protection offered by natural immunity is broader than that.
- PathOfEclipse 5y ago
  You are arguing like a child who thinks she can define words to mean whatever she wants them to. But in reality, words are meant to communicate mutually agreed-upon ideas, and in our reality, these phrases have specific definitions: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/immunity-types.htm https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/immunity-types.htm That I have to spell this out suggests you are either lying to yourself or being disingenous. And the same applies to your argument about trying to make me feel "silly" but not "guilty". And your other arguments. They all seem to stem from self-deceit or insincerity, and suggest that I am wasting my time trying to communicate ideas with you.
  - vannevar 5y ago
- logic_beats_pro 5y ago
  The only valid one here is: - less personal risk Community risk makes no sense, the vaccine has absolutely no impact on transmission. Disagree? Show me your sources And no need for quarantine after infection if you've been vaccinated? Uh, you might just be irresponsible. Do you also refuse to wear a mask?
  - vannevar 5y ago
    You're talking about getting infected after vaccination. I'm talking about vaccination vs infection as a path to immunity. You can also get infected after getting infected, so it's a wash there.

vannevar 5y ago

spurgu 5y ago
Vaccine-induced immunity is against the particular spike protein of the first Covid variant. The protection offered by natural immunity is broader than that.
PathOfEclipse 5y ago
You are arguing like a child who thinks she can define words to mean whatever she wants them to. But in reality, words are meant to communicate mutually agreed-upon ideas, and in our reality, these phrases have specific definitions: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/immunity-types.htm https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/immunity-types.htm That I have to spell this out suggests you are either lying to yourself or being disingenous. And the same applies to your argument about trying to make me feel "silly" but not "guilty". And your other arguments. They all seem to stem from self-deceit or insincerity, and suggest that I am wasting my time trying to communicate ideas with you.
- vannevar 5y ago
logic_beats_pro 5y ago
The only valid one here is: - less personal risk Community risk makes no sense, the vaccine has absolutely no impact on transmission. Disagree? Show me your sources And no need for quarantine after infection if you've been vaccinated? Uh, you might just be irresponsible. Do you also refuse to wear a mask?
- vannevar 5y ago
  You're talking about getting infected after vaccination. I'm talking about vaccination vs infection as a path to immunity. You can also get infected after getting infected, so it's a wash there.