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For healthy, already vaccinated people it's reasonably safe to contract omicron. I haven't gotten omicron (I don't think) but it's not at all something I would

For healthy, already vaccinated people it's reasonably safe to contract omicron. I haven't gotten omicron (I don't think) but it's not at all something I would worry about at this point. Concern is still warranted for high risk groups. It's important to vaccinate to reduce symptoms. It is safe for most people to contract omicron.

Vivtek 5y ago
So safe, in fact, that more people are dying in Puerto Rico this week, due to the omicron spike, than at any earlier point in the pandemic.
zamalek 5y ago
Modern medicine weights the benefit of a treatment against its side effects. Chemotherapy, as one example, absolutely ravages a person but the alternative (ongoing cancer) is significantly worse: that is why chemotherapy is a recommended treatment for cancer. The current consensus is that we shouldn't be intentionally infecting ourselves with COVID as an inoculation. The side effects of this treatment aren't well understood and we have evidence that they can be pretty bad (long COVID). Remember that we are currently only counting deaths. You should continue to do everything in your power to avoid catching COVID... and vaccinate, obviously.
- PathOfEclipse 5y ago
  The death counts aren't even accurate: https://www.dailywire.com/news/jordan-peterson-absolutely-no-excuse-cdc-director-cant-say-how-many-deaths-are-from-covid-versus-with-covid?itm_source=parsely-api https://www.dailywire.com/news/jordan-peterson-absolutely-no.... And the evidence that long COVID is generally bad is lacking as well. The virus has no doubt been bad for many groups of people, but when the leading cause of death in the U.S. for adults 45 and under is drug overdose from a single drug, fentanyl, and when the excess deaths over the pandemic from suicides far outstrips COVID deaths for teenagers, it's time to pause and reconsider health from a more holistic perspective. COVID kills the elderly and those with a few other comorbidities like obesity and diabetes, but, for many, the risk factor is too low to justify the outrage people have over the unvaccinated, as much as it is the fault of the media and the established government for stoking this outrage.
  - zamalek 5y ago
    The outrage over the vaccinated is equally as high, case in point: I was talking about intentionally catching it.

Vivtek 5y ago

So safe, in fact, that more people are dying in Puerto Rico this week, due to the omicron spike, than at any earlier point in the pandemic.

zamalek 5y ago

Modern medicine weights the benefit of a treatment against its side effects. Chemotherapy, as one example, absolutely ravages a person but the alternative (ongoing cancer) is significantly worse: that is why chemotherapy is a recommended treatment for cancer. The current consensus is that we shouldn't be intentionally infecting ourselves with COVID as an inoculation. The side effects of this treatment aren't well understood and we have evidence that they can be pretty bad (long COVID). Remember that we are currently only counting deaths. You should continue to do everything in your power to avoid catching COVID... and vaccinate, obviously.

PathOfEclipse 5y ago
The death counts aren't even accurate: https://www.dailywire.com/news/jordan-peterson-absolutely-no-excuse-cdc-director-cant-say-how-many-deaths-are-from-covid-versus-with-covid?itm_source=parsely-api https://www.dailywire.com/news/jordan-peterson-absolutely-no.... And the evidence that long COVID is generally bad is lacking as well. The virus has no doubt been bad for many groups of people, but when the leading cause of death in the U.S. for adults 45 and under is drug overdose from a single drug, fentanyl, and when the excess deaths over the pandemic from suicides far outstrips COVID deaths for teenagers, it's time to pause and reconsider health from a more holistic perspective. COVID kills the elderly and those with a few other comorbidities like obesity and diabetes, but, for many, the risk factor is too low to justify the outrage people have over the unvaccinated, as much as it is the fault of the media and the established government for stoking this outrage.
- zamalek 5y ago
  The outrage over the vaccinated is equally as high, case in point: I was talking about intentionally catching it.