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Google's business is selling ads, Apple's business is selling hardware. Too many customers don't know the difference between buying an appliance and something

by fundad 5y ago

Google's business is selling ads, Apple's business is selling hardware. Too many customers don't know the difference between buying an appliance and something to watch ads from Google.

Teknoman117 5y ago
I mean, considering all most people use their phones for is a web browser and their collection of social media apps I think the ad coverage on both is pretty darn similar. I switched from an iPhone to Android because I won't carry a phone I can't deploy my own software to, and I stopped buying Macs, so I can't build for iOS anymore now that the last one died. I don't really see any more or less ads because they're served through whatever app or website you're using.
- rodgerd 5y ago
  Interesting. One of the two triggers to investigate iOS in my household (the other was deprecating Hangouts) was noticing that pihole was showing about a third of the DNS requests were blocked, and those were overwhelmingly from mobile devices. Moving to iOS dropped that to 3%. This is a few years ago, so I'm sure that the adware companies have got harder-to-block mechanisms for their surveillance capitalism. But certainly at that point, it was a very significant difference. Apple's requirement to be clear about how customer data is being used by third parties has only reinforced the value of that change for me.
thastings 5y ago
This is a very important point. Xiaomi is selling premium phones with unreal amount of ads (like im their Calculator app...), but these phones have amazing support from the communities, both from Lineage and upcoming alternatives like Ubuntu Touch. So for cost-conscious, privacy-oriented people, Xiaomi is a good option. And so are the Pixels, because they also recieve similar community support, and unlocking the bootloader is a single command. In the end of the day, every company have their own incentives (Google, Xiaomi or Apple), but the users still have power over Android, while that is so not the case for Apple and iOS. Edit: fixed typo
- fundad 5y ago
  That’s interesting. Amazon offers the choice between regular price for their tablet and an ad-supported price.

by fundad 5y ago

Google's business is selling ads, Apple's business is selling hardware. Too many customers don't know the difference between buying an appliance and something to watch ads from Google.

Teknoman117 5y ago

I mean, considering all most people use their phones for is a web browser and their collection of social media apps I think the ad coverage on both is pretty darn similar. I switched from an iPhone to Android because I won't carry a phone I can't deploy my own software to, and I stopped buying Macs, so I can't build for iOS anymore now that the last one died. I don't really see any more or less ads because they're served through whatever app or website you're using.

rodgerd 5y ago
Interesting. One of the two triggers to investigate iOS in my household (the other was deprecating Hangouts) was noticing that pihole was showing about a third of the DNS requests were blocked, and those were overwhelmingly from mobile devices. Moving to iOS dropped that to 3%. This is a few years ago, so I'm sure that the adware companies have got harder-to-block mechanisms for their surveillance capitalism. But certainly at that point, it was a very significant difference. Apple's requirement to be clear about how customer data is being used by third parties has only reinforced the value of that change for me.

thastings 5y ago

This is a very important point. Xiaomi is selling premium phones with unreal amount of ads (like im their Calculator app...), but these phones have amazing support from the communities, both from Lineage and upcoming alternatives like Ubuntu Touch. So for cost-conscious, privacy-oriented people, Xiaomi is a good option. And so are the Pixels, because they also recieve similar community support, and unlocking the bootloader is a single command. In the end of the day, every company have their own incentives (Google, Xiaomi or Apple), but the users still have power over Android, while that is so not the case for Apple and iOS. Edit: fixed typo

fundad 5y ago
That’s interesting. Amazon offers the choice between regular price for their tablet and an ad-supported price.