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>the answer seems to be Apple Until Apple bricks your phone with a stealth update because you haven't upgraded quickly enough. https://www.reuters.com/article

>the answer seems to be Apple Until Apple bricks your phone with a stealth update because you haven't upgraded quickly enough. https://www.reuters.com/article/apple-iphones-settlement-idUSL1N2I325Z https://www.reuters.com/article/apple-iphones-settlement-idU...

fluidcruft 5y ago
Honestly I think this is the real issue: batteries barely last three years and when they start to go things go strange and people blame the phone rather than replace the battery. I expect somewhere inside Google they grok that supporting a phone beyond three years becomes the root cause problem being dying batteries.
- MiddleEndian 5y ago
  >people blame the phone rather than replace the battery. If their phone doesn't have a replaceable battery then blaming the phone is correct.
  - Bud 5y ago
    No, it's simply not. Not when the battery can actually be replaced for $49. The battery is replaceable.
    - post-it 5y ago
      The opportunity cost of having to look up a vendor store, go there, and wait an hour+ for them to replace my battery may as well be infinite.
      - throwaway946513 5y ago
        Which is about the same thing for an iPhone? Apple stores don't magically replace batteries in seconds. On my iPhone 6s, I had both a bad battery, and a defective display - took 7 hours to get my phone back after scheduling an appointment at the Apple Store.
        post-it 5y ago
        iPhone batteries should be user-replaceable too. Maybe with a pair of screws instead of a clip.
      - google234123 5y ago
        That’s bullshit. I guess overturning cost for repairing a car is also infinite by that logic.
        post-it 5y ago
        It is. I hate getting my car repaired. Now that I work from home, if I didn't already own a car, I very well might not buy one.
      - kaba0 5y ago
        Once per 3 years?!
- schmorptron 5y ago
  I wonder how much of this could be extended by phones just auto-limiting charging to 90% (current phones already time charging so when left on overnight it only reaches 100% when you wake up) most of the time, since that seems to increase battery longevity by a lot.
wlesieutre 5y ago
I had one of the affected phones and concur that it was shitty of them to try and sneak that by people, but "throttled the peak CPU boost" is a long way from "bricked" Upside of the settlement was I got a battery replacement for $30 (performed same day in store) and coming up on 6 years since release the original iPhone SE is still running the latest version of iOS.
- vanilla_nut 5y ago
  Also a happy OG SE user who got one of the cheap battery replacements. Replaced again a couple years later with an iFixit battery for ~$30, still using it to this day. Holding out for a worthy upgrade path...

fluidcruft 5y ago

Honestly I think this is the real issue: batteries barely last three years and when they start to go things go strange and people blame the phone rather than replace the battery. I expect somewhere inside Google they grok that supporting a phone beyond three years becomes the root cause problem being dying batteries.

MiddleEndian 5y ago
>people blame the phone rather than replace the battery. If their phone doesn't have a replaceable battery then blaming the phone is correct.
- Bud 5y ago
  No, it's simply not. Not when the battery can actually be replaced for $49. The battery is replaceable.
  - post-it 5y ago
    The opportunity cost of having to look up a vendor store, go there, and wait an hour+ for them to replace my battery may as well be infinite.
    - throwaway946513 5y ago
      Which is about the same thing for an iPhone? Apple stores don't magically replace batteries in seconds. On my iPhone 6s, I had both a bad battery, and a defective display - took 7 hours to get my phone back after scheduling an appointment at the Apple Store.
      - post-it 5y ago
        iPhone batteries should be user-replaceable too. Maybe with a pair of screws instead of a clip.
    - google234123 5y ago
      That’s bullshit. I guess overturning cost for repairing a car is also infinite by that logic.
      - post-it 5y ago
        It is. I hate getting my car repaired. Now that I work from home, if I didn't already own a car, I very well might not buy one.
    - kaba0 5y ago
      Once per 3 years?!
schmorptron 5y ago
I wonder how much of this could be extended by phones just auto-limiting charging to 90% (current phones already time charging so when left on overnight it only reaches 100% when you wake up) most of the time, since that seems to increase battery longevity by a lot.

wlesieutre 5y ago

I had one of the affected phones and concur that it was shitty of them to try and sneak that by people, but "throttled the peak CPU boost" is a long way from "bricked" Upside of the settlement was I got a battery replacement for $30 (performed same day in store) and coming up on 6 years since release the original iPhone SE is still running the latest version of iOS.

vanilla_nut 5y ago
Also a happy OG SE user who got one of the cheap battery replacements. Replaced again a couple years later with an iFixit battery for ~$30, still using it to this day. Holding out for a worthy upgrade path...