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While you are not wrong about self-discipline being an important factor, there are also genetic components to things like ghrelin and leptin levels and responsi

While you are not wrong about self-discipline being an important factor, there are also genetic components to things like ghrelin and leptin levels and responsiveness. Not to mention also that the willpower to override your habits is a limited resource and not everyone has the ability to apply it to this aspect of their lives.

skeptical1 5y ago
- rchaud 5y ago
  > If you refuse to understand this obvious truth, then perhaps you're right about yourself: you are mentally and genetically defective. For obvious reasons, we can't afford to have genetic defectives giving shitty advice that will enable others to ruin their lives, "Genetically defective" - who determines this? And how are we to know that you yourself are not 'defective'?
  - skeptical1 5y ago
    Hmmm...how about the fact that I don't engorge my piehole with mass quantities of junk food, become obese, then make pitiful and pathetic excuses for my lack of self control? How about the fact that at 41 years old, I am much healthier than 95% of the U.S. high school graduating class of 2022, many of whom are too fat to see their own feet without a mirror? How about the fact that my conscious CHOICES have kept me healthy and free of sickness for all of my adult life, despite society's attempt to brainwash me to become an unhealthy, disgusting lard ass? Do you think any of that might indicate some form of superiority? Do you agree with the other idiot that these poor, helpless obese people can't possibly do anything to help themselves? Then you are also genetically defective, and striving hard to bring down as many others as you can. The idiot himself admits he is defective. Isn't that the entire point of the "but I just can't help myself" excuse? I tried to help him see reason and overcome his poor mindset, but he steadfastly stuck to his "I'm just defective and can't help myself" excuse. So I guess in the end I am forced to agree with him.
    - cecilpl2 5y ago
      I guess that just proves my point about discipline being a limited resource. You appear to have put of yours into bettering your physical health and none into interpersonal relationships or compassion. There's no reason to repeatedly insult me.
      - skeptical1 5y ago
ac29 5y ago
The genetics of the human population have not shifted nearly as fast as weights have increased. Genetics may play some role in weight, but other factors are far more determinant.

skeptical1 5y ago

rchaud 5y ago
> If you refuse to understand this obvious truth, then perhaps you're right about yourself: you are mentally and genetically defective. For obvious reasons, we can't afford to have genetic defectives giving shitty advice that will enable others to ruin their lives, "Genetically defective" - who determines this? And how are we to know that you yourself are not 'defective'?
- skeptical1 5y ago
  Hmmm...how about the fact that I don't engorge my piehole with mass quantities of junk food, become obese, then make pitiful and pathetic excuses for my lack of self control? How about the fact that at 41 years old, I am much healthier than 95% of the U.S. high school graduating class of 2022, many of whom are too fat to see their own feet without a mirror? How about the fact that my conscious CHOICES have kept me healthy and free of sickness for all of my adult life, despite society's attempt to brainwash me to become an unhealthy, disgusting lard ass? Do you think any of that might indicate some form of superiority? Do you agree with the other idiot that these poor, helpless obese people can't possibly do anything to help themselves? Then you are also genetically defective, and striving hard to bring down as many others as you can. The idiot himself admits he is defective. Isn't that the entire point of the "but I just can't help myself" excuse? I tried to help him see reason and overcome his poor mindset, but he steadfastly stuck to his "I'm just defective and can't help myself" excuse. So I guess in the end I am forced to agree with him.
  - cecilpl2 5y ago
    I guess that just proves my point about discipline being a limited resource. You appear to have put of yours into bettering your physical health and none into interpersonal relationships or compassion. There's no reason to repeatedly insult me.
    - skeptical1 5y ago

ac29 5y ago

The genetics of the human population have not shifted nearly as fast as weights have increased. Genetics may play some role in weight, but other factors are far more determinant.