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I received a 1% raise at my current job. My coworkers who worked evenings and weekends received a "100% positive adjustment of their raise" (2%).
by PascLeRasc 5y ago
I received a 1% raise at my current job. My coworkers who worked evenings and weekends received a "100% positive adjustment of their raise" (2%).
- root_axis 5y agoA 1% raise seems insulting imo.
- Ancalagon 5y agoIt is
- mgkimsal 5y agoI started at a company in mid January, and they did annual reviews in June/July. After review, I 'merited' a 4% raise. But... because I'd only been there since January, they prorated the 4% raise to 2%. I never quite understood their logic, but also didn't stay through the end of the year. EDIT: this was... 2004/2005 era.
- jsdwarf 5y agoIMHO quite generous by them, in my former companies you skipped the raise talk if you joined less than 9 months ago. Makes sense, because you just negotiated your salary on entry.
- MattGaiser 5y ago> Makes sense, because you just negotiated your salary on entry. Not really, as in this field that is about halfway through your tenure. Market has certainly shifted a lot in 9 months past.
- giantg2 5y ago18 month tenure seems short, even for IT employees. Better off just staffing with contractors if that's truly expected.
- MattGaiser 5y agoDevs seem to last two years, but they make the decision to leave well before that, so you need to get a retention offer in before they start the job search.
- giantg2 5y agoAny data on that?
- MattGaiser 5y agoOnly anecdotal, but that seems to be how long people last. There are no devs that I knew at either of my past two jobs that remain. Virtually all friends report similar experiences.
- giantg2 5y agoMy experience goes the other way. 75%+ have been at my company for 5+ years.
- akireu 5y agoInventing arbitrary formulae to calculate your wage is merely a dishonest negotiation tactic. Govt companies do it all the time, don't read too much into it. Also, it's perfectly fine to renegotiate your wage once you're off your probation period, as once you're in, you have a better idea of your worth to the company. Just don't do it too often.
- willcipriano 5y agoIt's a clear signal, the company values you less than when it hired you. When leaving a company like that I find it best to frame it in a way that they were unhappy with you. "Hey look I know you are trying to spare my feelings, but that is 6 percent less than inflation, clearly you want me out of here but didn't have the courage to lay me off. Thanks for the heads up, I've found another role."
- MattGaiser 5y agoIt really seems like you are most valued the day you are hired, with your value declining by the day.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoThe whole concept of value in terms of business transactions seems weird to me. It is ill defined and unactionable. Either you agree to buy or sell at a certain price, or not. “Value” plays no role in the determination of prices.
- MattGaiser 5y agoWell, what the business will pay for you declines the longer you stay.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoEvery choice in life is a gamble. Many or most businesses are betting that their labor vendors (employees) will accept less and less. Based on the statistics of the past 5 decades, this seems to have been a good bet.
- airstrike 5y agoWhether you agree to buy or sell at a certain price is entirely dependent on whether such price is higher or lower than the value of the trade, in your own subjective assessment. There are other meanings of the word "value" in business transactions, but that is probably the most common and fundamental one.
- giantg2 5y ago1.5% raise receiver here. Yes I'm insulted.
- AdrianB1 5y agoI got nothing for a couple of years in a row, then less than 1% the next; the HR guys said this is because there is a very low turnover, so there is no need to pay better. Companies to what they can, as much as they can.
- MattGaiser 5y agoAfter a few rounds of this, developers basically join a company with a plan to leave as soon as they become reasonably productive.
- alana314 5y agoIs keeping your salary at pace with inflation a good argument? My raises have typically been 0-3% YoY but inflation in 2021 was 6.8%.