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Florida is a shithole? You spend too much time on the internet. Florida man is a literal meme that came about because of laws that all state collected data shou

Florida is a shithole? You spend too much time on the internet. Florida man is a literal meme that came about because of laws that all state collected data should be publicly available causing the media to get most of its fun crime stories from the very large population there. You realize that a large portion of the richest Americans chose to move there for their retirement? Very large swaths of southern Florida contain some of the most modern and amenity rich sections of the WORLD. Not accessible to the average citizen of course, but then again Luxembourg isn't well known for its accessibility either. We are so much more alike than we are different.

boffinAudio 5y ago
>You realize that a large portion of the richest Americans chose to move there for their retirement? Yes of course, making it a shithole for those who didn't.
jimbob45 5y ago
I was going to write exactly this. Florida is the proverbial city on a hill for its progressive crime transparency policies. I'm tired of the ignorant fools giving it a bad name because they're going to drag down a very healthy policy with them. I'm convinced that other states and countries try to smear Florida because they're terrified what would happen if they themselves had the bravery to commit to Florida's level of governmental transparency. https://uwf.edu/go/legal-and-consumer-info/florida-sunshine-law/ https://uwf.edu/go/legal-and-consumer-info/florida-sunshine-...
- wbsss4412 5y ago
  How do you consider it “progressive” that Florida makes it easy to publicly shame people in the press for their transgressions? Most of the time it’s just punching downwards.
  - jimbob45 5y ago
    I think my link above would be very helpful for you. It's not just about crime transparency, which is something that virtually every state signaled support for in 2020. It's every governmental activity including university meetings. You know it's working because people get caught trying to circumvent it[0]. The Attorney General hates it[1]. Without it, we wouldn't know about former governor candidate Andrew Gillum being a methhead[2]. I can't confirm this but I'm fairly sure we only know about the expired COVID tests because of this law[3]. I simply encourage you to educate yourself on Florida and to understand that their openness is something to be lauded, not feared or mocked. [0]https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/01/07/2-florida-county-commissioners-from-the-villages-removed-after-perjury-charges/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/01/07/2-... [1]https://flaglerlive.com/95717/sunshine-law-snyder/ https://flaglerlive.com/95717/sunshine-law-snyder/ [2]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-gillum-found-at-scene-of-suspected-drug-overdose-in-miami-hotel-room-2020-03-13/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-gillum-found-at-scene-of... [3]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/desantis-confirms-many-1-million-covid-tests-expired-state-stockpile-n1287174 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/desantis-conf...
    - wbsss4412 5y ago
      Of those, the only thing I see as being actually significantly beneficial to the public would be the story about expired Covid tests. Knowing that a former gubernatorial candidate is/was a meth head isn’t a crowning achievement.
      - jimbob45 5y ago
        Gillum very likely would have run this year if he hadn't been caught like that.
pavlov 5y ago
In Florida, six-year-old children live in tents: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/florida-affordable-housing-crisis/2022/01/18/8369ac0c-72ea-11ec-b202-b9b92330d4fa_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/florida-affordable-h... I get it that Floridians don't want a nanny state, but this kind of thing is why the below-median lifestyle in the state looks like a shithole from a European POV. The fact that the 1% is so well-off makes the picture look even worse.
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boffinAudio 5y ago

>You realize that a large portion of the richest Americans chose to move there for their retirement? Yes of course, making it a shithole for those who didn't.

jimbob45 5y ago

I was going to write exactly this. Florida is the proverbial city on a hill for its progressive crime transparency policies. I'm tired of the ignorant fools giving it a bad name because they're going to drag down a very healthy policy with them. I'm convinced that other states and countries try to smear Florida because they're terrified what would happen if they themselves had the bravery to commit to Florida's level of governmental transparency. https://uwf.edu/go/legal-and-consumer-info/florida-sunshine-law/ https://uwf.edu/go/legal-and-consumer-info/florida-sunshine-...

wbsss4412 5y ago
How do you consider it “progressive” that Florida makes it easy to publicly shame people in the press for their transgressions? Most of the time it’s just punching downwards.
- jimbob45 5y ago
  I think my link above would be very helpful for you. It's not just about crime transparency, which is something that virtually every state signaled support for in 2020. It's every governmental activity including university meetings. You know it's working because people get caught trying to circumvent it[0]. The Attorney General hates it[1]. Without it, we wouldn't know about former governor candidate Andrew Gillum being a methhead[2]. I can't confirm this but I'm fairly sure we only know about the expired COVID tests because of this law[3]. I simply encourage you to educate yourself on Florida and to understand that their openness is something to be lauded, not feared or mocked. [0]https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/01/07/2-florida-county-commissioners-from-the-villages-removed-after-perjury-charges/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/01/07/2-... [1]https://flaglerlive.com/95717/sunshine-law-snyder/ https://flaglerlive.com/95717/sunshine-law-snyder/ [2]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-gillum-found-at-scene-of-suspected-drug-overdose-in-miami-hotel-room-2020-03-13/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-gillum-found-at-scene-of... [3]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/desantis-confirms-many-1-million-covid-tests-expired-state-stockpile-n1287174 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/desantis-conf...
  - wbsss4412 5y ago
    Of those, the only thing I see as being actually significantly beneficial to the public would be the story about expired Covid tests. Knowing that a former gubernatorial candidate is/was a meth head isn’t a crowning achievement.
    - jimbob45 5y ago
      Gillum very likely would have run this year if he hadn't been caught like that.

pavlov 5y ago

In Florida, six-year-old children live in tents: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/florida-affordable-housing-crisis/2022/01/18/8369ac0c-72ea-11ec-b202-b9b92330d4fa_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/florida-affordable-h... I get it that Floridians don't want a nanny state, but this kind of thing is why the below-median lifestyle in the state looks like a shithole from a European POV. The fact that the 1% is so well-off makes the picture look even worse.

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