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> anytime someone says china doesn't steal technology Does anyone believe that any non-CCP actors are disputing China’s ongoing, massive, organized trade secre

> anytime someone says china doesn't steal technology Does anyone believe that any non-CCP actors are disputing China’s ongoing, massive, organized trade secret theft?

DevKoala 5y ago
I do. Highly effective propaganda has associated the facts around Chinese trade secret stealing with claims of racism and general xenophobia. As a result, now you have plenty of individuals all over the world whose moral compass pushes them to ignore the facts around trade secret stealing and even go dispute them in online conversations.
- QuarterReptile 5y ago
  Explain further, please. Your response doesn't answer the question; I can't decide if it's deliberate obfuscation through scary words or an complete misunderstanding of what is being asked.
  - coupdejarnac 5y ago
    Just go on to reddit, and you'll find lots of people defending China against what they think is a smear campaign. Lots of these people appear to be young westerners who have bought into China's propaganda.
- aaronblohowiak 5y ago
  To look beyond the rhetoric, we can see how smart rich people are acting in their self interest, (presumably the profit motive generally trumps identity politics) and there are very very numerous cases of avoiding ip leakage to PRC while being very comfortable with RoC, challenging the racial or xenophobic explanation in your post.
- spoonjim 5y ago
  China is using the US’s Christian sensibilities (charity, forgiveness, etc) against them.
  - throwaway59553 5y ago
  - seneca 5y ago
    I don't know that it's Christian sensibilities so much as a political view extremely susceptible to this sort of shrewd manipulation. As the person you're responding to said, the smoke screen is to cast criticism of China as racist or xenophobic. They even have a term, "baizuo", to mock this concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuo In general you're right though. They are very successful at using weaknesses against us.
  - president 5y ago
    This is true. Growing up in an immigrant community (and as a minority myself), I would always hear people mock how open and trusting Americans were and how Americans were easily cheated. Anything involving the honor code would usually be violated.

> anytime someone says china doesn't steal technology Does anyone believe that any non-CCP actors are disputing China’s ongoing, massive, organized trade secret theft?

DevKoala 5y ago

I do. Highly effective propaganda has associated the facts around Chinese trade secret stealing with claims of racism and general xenophobia. As a result, now you have plenty of individuals all over the world whose moral compass pushes them to ignore the facts around trade secret stealing and even go dispute them in online conversations.

QuarterReptile 5y ago
Explain further, please. Your response doesn't answer the question; I can't decide if it's deliberate obfuscation through scary words or an complete misunderstanding of what is being asked.
- coupdejarnac 5y ago
  Just go on to reddit, and you'll find lots of people defending China against what they think is a smear campaign. Lots of these people appear to be young westerners who have bought into China's propaganda.
aaronblohowiak 5y ago
To look beyond the rhetoric, we can see how smart rich people are acting in their self interest, (presumably the profit motive generally trumps identity politics) and there are very very numerous cases of avoiding ip leakage to PRC while being very comfortable with RoC, challenging the racial or xenophobic explanation in your post.
spoonjim 5y ago
China is using the US’s Christian sensibilities (charity, forgiveness, etc) against them.
- throwaway59553 5y ago
- seneca 5y ago
  I don't know that it's Christian sensibilities so much as a political view extremely susceptible to this sort of shrewd manipulation. As the person you're responding to said, the smoke screen is to cast criticism of China as racist or xenophobic. They even have a term, "baizuo", to mock this concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuo In general you're right though. They are very successful at using weaknesses against us.
- president 5y ago
  This is true. Growing up in an immigrant community (and as a minority myself), I would always hear people mock how open and trusting Americans were and how Americans were easily cheated. Anything involving the honor code would usually be violated.