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Tencent Allegedly Wanted Bigger Breasts and No Black People in Movie It Funded

36 points by snowgrove 5y ago

6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
> Pearce was quick to walk back the allegations by expressing her reluctance to discuss any specific films or games "because I’m so worried about getting sued by Tencent, but this is what I’ve heard — rumors. I’m not sure if any of this is true.” This seems like a non-article.
mc32 5y ago
On a tangent, China aims to be a moviemaking powerhouse by 2035[1]. They want to have independence from Hollywood and foreign media influence on their culture. It's not just Hollywood they want to wean themselves from, but (South) Korean programming, among others, as well with their 'ban' on "effeminate men"[2] [1]https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202112/15/WS61b9520aa310cdd39bc7b712.html https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202112/15/WS61b9520aa310cdd3... [2]https://www.voanews.com/a/china-tells-effeminate-male-celebrities-to-man-up-/6244721.html https://www.voanews.com/a/china-tells-effeminate-male-celebr...
- eatonphil 5y ago
  For the last 10 years it feels like almost every major American movie I've seen has been (co)produced by a Chinese group. It's definitely been clear where they're heading.
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- Jyaif 5y ago
  It seems that nobody in the western world realizes that China already is a moviemaking powerhouse: - Worldwide Box Office 2020: 3 out of the top 4 biggest movies were Chinese - Worldwide Box Office 2021: 2 out of the top 3 biggest movies were Chinese Source: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2020/ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2020/ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2021/ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2021/
  - mc32 5y ago
    Of course China makes tons of movies (and I think people are well aware of the HK output) Here we are taking them at their own word from official organs of dissemination[1]. They want to eliminate foreign imports so they can control the actual narrative not just the figurative "narrative". [1]http://english.www.gov.cn/policies/policywatch/202112/15/content_WS61b928ecc6d09c94e48a238c.html http://english.www.gov.cn/policies/policywatch/202112/15/con...
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- q1w2 5y ago
  Hollywood is such an effective propaganda machine, it's no surprise that any rising superpower would want its own movie industry.
- Jansen312 5y ago
  Bollywood and Nigeria as well. Those 2 countries have very thriving movie industries. They are lacking Korean slickness at the moment, but story-wise and cultural contents are quite refreshing. With Netflix seeding many aspiring directors with good plots, I think it will be great to see how competitive Chinese moviemakers are. I say the more the merrier even if some of those are heavy influenced by government propaganda (ahem....Fight Club China Director's cut)
NikolaeVarius 5y ago
> Pearce was quick to walk back the allegations by expressing her reluctance to discuss any specific films or games "because I’m so worried about getting sued by Tencent, but this is what I’ve heard — rumors. I’m not sure if any of this is true.” She however said that Tencent has “games that are out where they were like ‘yeah, that character needs to have bigger tits’ or ‘you need to make her skin lighter’ type of shit.” Worthless article designed to spark outrage and clicks. Dont give them ad dollars
- gowld 5y ago
  This is how CCP works, though. It's illegal to talk openly about the authoritarian government.
- hammock 5y ago
  Allegations were similarly raised about the lab origin of covid, called "designed to spark outrage and clicks" and then walked back for fear of political repercussions.
DiggyJohnson 5y ago
Assuming this is true, that is not only tasteless, some would say evil (I don't really believe in evil, though), but above all: it's out of touch. Doesn't seem like good business, there's so much middle ground between cheap sex appeal and woke reboots. I don't see how this could be a reasonable response to the latter. The article itself isn't exactly seeping with tangible details and sources, though. I don't think this is really telling us anything new.
- bertil 5y ago
  I wouldn’t quote this YouTuber for everything, but he was born in South Africa and was a teenager when the country was still under apartheid: if he was horrified by the blatant racism when he was in China, I can’t imagine it was light or rare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVozQG2Q-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVozQG2Q-4 I’m not really surprised. And I’m scared that might be good business _in China_; whether the effort to go against that trend will pay off internationally remains to be seen.
  - stone-monkey 5y ago
    Knew it was a serpentza link before I clicked on it. You can make your own conclusions but I don't really see him as anything more than a clickbaiter. He lives in the US now and has said that the US is the only society without true racism, if you want to get a sense of his biases. https://www.reddit.com/r/Expatshame/comments/nlxlxs/serpentza_a_white_man_goes_a_majority_white/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Expatshame/comments/nlxlxs/serpentz...
    - DiggyJohnson 5y ago
      I'm not sure I'm comfortable with calling that a silly bias unless I heard his explanation. Point taken though - I'm weary of this genre of content producer.
nottorp 5y ago
Let me guess... this is somehow worse than their business practices at Epic...
donatj 5y ago
> this is what I’ve heard — rumors This whole article is just discussion based on a rumor.
- karaterobot 5y ago
  A rumor the source will not stand by, and the person writing the article didn't investigate. And it's all just recapitulating an interview someone else did. So, this is clickbait that shouldn't be on HN.
steelstraw 5y ago
Fight Club was recently released on Tencent Streaming. Check out how they edited the final scene: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1485707293769584641 https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1485707293769584641
- hammock 5y ago
  That's hilarious.
  - killjoywashere 5y ago
    Like, 1984 hilarious? Like, when my mountain biking buddy warns me of some insane switchback-into-vertical-drop-then-duck-under-the-log-at-the-bottom-or-decapitate-yourself and says it's hilarious?
- AdmiralAsshat 5y ago
  Wouldn't want their citizens getting any crazy ideas about challenging the social order, after all.
- evan_ 5y ago
  Ironically that’s like 1% away from the book ending.
- adamrezich 5y ago
  ha, they got rid of the "subliminal" dick at the end
Koshkin 5y ago
But one doesn't come without the other... /ducks
- snowgrove 5y ago
  It’s hard to say beyond anecdotal impressions. There are rankings out there of average breast size by country, perhaps drawn from brassiere sales numbers, but I’ve never seen one which disambiguates cup size (itself an incomplete indicator) from overall BMI. An obese white European woman may have a larger chest on average than African women of a healthy weight, but it’s not clear which example theater audiences would find the most attractive on the basis of their bust. That’s my juvenile speculation for the day.
_bfhp 5y ago
> Within both Activision's and Blizzard's studios, management allegedly both allowed and encouraged "cube crawls", where male employees went from cubicle to cubicle, drinking heavily and making inappropriate advances towards and physically touching female employees. ... A woman employee reportedly died by suicide during a business trip after suffering "intense sexual harassment" in the preceding days, which included employees sharing nude photos of her at a company holiday party. The human resources departments allegedly did not keep reports of sexual harassment confidential, which as a result allowed managers and others to retaliate against employees who reported misconduct, such as by denying them promotions, transferring them to other departments, prioritizing them during company-wide layoffs, or preventing them from working on desirable projects. [0] Let's fix China tho [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Department_of_Fair_Employment_and_Housing_v._Activision_Blizzard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Department_of_Fair_...
- gowld 5y ago
  Yes, let's fix both. That's why CA filed a lawsuit.
tyleo 5y ago
I got a buzzfeed-style ad for “hottest beach babes of 2021” or similar half way through. I know the ad is generated by an automated system. But it’s hypocritical that a news site would make claims of righteousness while engaging in very similar sexualization of women.
Shadonototra 5y ago
Hollywood Allegedly Wanted Sexier Womens and No Arabs in Movie it Funded who's better? i need the media to tell me, i can't make a decision myself

36 points by snowgrove 5y ago

mc32 5y ago

On a tangent, China aims to be a moviemaking powerhouse by 2035[1]. They want to have independence from Hollywood and foreign media influence on their culture. It's not just Hollywood they want to wean themselves from, but (South) Korean programming, among others, as well with their 'ban' on "effeminate men"[2] [1]https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202112/15/WS61b9520aa310cdd39bc7b712.html https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202112/15/WS61b9520aa310cdd3... [2]https://www.voanews.com/a/china-tells-effeminate-male-celebrities-to-man-up-/6244721.html https://www.voanews.com/a/china-tells-effeminate-male-celebr...

eatonphil 5y ago
For the last 10 years it feels like almost every major American movie I've seen has been (co)produced by a Chinese group. It's definitely been clear where they're heading.
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Jyaif 5y ago
It seems that nobody in the western world realizes that China already is a moviemaking powerhouse: - Worldwide Box Office 2020: 3 out of the top 4 biggest movies were Chinese - Worldwide Box Office 2021: 2 out of the top 3 biggest movies were Chinese Source: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2020/ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2020/ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2021/ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2021/
- mc32 5y ago
  Of course China makes tons of movies (and I think people are well aware of the HK output) Here we are taking them at their own word from official organs of dissemination[1]. They want to eliminate foreign imports so they can control the actual narrative not just the figurative "narrative". [1]http://english.www.gov.cn/policies/policywatch/202112/15/content_WS61b928ecc6d09c94e48a238c.html http://english.www.gov.cn/policies/policywatch/202112/15/con...
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q1w2 5y ago
Hollywood is such an effective propaganda machine, it's no surprise that any rising superpower would want its own movie industry.
Jansen312 5y ago
Bollywood and Nigeria as well. Those 2 countries have very thriving movie industries. They are lacking Korean slickness at the moment, but story-wise and cultural contents are quite refreshing. With Netflix seeding many aspiring directors with good plots, I think it will be great to see how competitive Chinese moviemakers are. I say the more the merrier even if some of those are heavy influenced by government propaganda (ahem....Fight Club China Director's cut)

NikolaeVarius 5y ago

> Pearce was quick to walk back the allegations by expressing her reluctance to discuss any specific films or games "because I’m so worried about getting sued by Tencent, but this is what I’ve heard — rumors. I’m not sure if any of this is true.” She however said that Tencent has “games that are out where they were like ‘yeah, that character needs to have bigger tits’ or ‘you need to make her skin lighter’ type of shit.” Worthless article designed to spark outrage and clicks. Dont give them ad dollars

gowld 5y ago
This is how CCP works, though. It's illegal to talk openly about the authoritarian government.
hammock 5y ago
Allegations were similarly raised about the lab origin of covid, called "designed to spark outrage and clicks" and then walked back for fear of political repercussions.

DiggyJohnson 5y ago

Assuming this is true, that is not only tasteless, some would say evil (I don't really believe in evil, though), but above all: it's out of touch. Doesn't seem like good business, there's so much middle ground between cheap sex appeal and woke reboots. I don't see how this could be a reasonable response to the latter. The article itself isn't exactly seeping with tangible details and sources, though. I don't think this is really telling us anything new.

bertil 5y ago
I wouldn’t quote this YouTuber for everything, but he was born in South Africa and was a teenager when the country was still under apartheid: if he was horrified by the blatant racism when he was in China, I can’t imagine it was light or rare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVozQG2Q-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVozQG2Q-4 I’m not really surprised. And I’m scared that might be good business _in China_; whether the effort to go against that trend will pay off internationally remains to be seen.
- stone-monkey 5y ago
  Knew it was a serpentza link before I clicked on it. You can make your own conclusions but I don't really see him as anything more than a clickbaiter. He lives in the US now and has said that the US is the only society without true racism, if you want to get a sense of his biases. https://www.reddit.com/r/Expatshame/comments/nlxlxs/serpentza_a_white_man_goes_a_majority_white/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Expatshame/comments/nlxlxs/serpentz...
  - DiggyJohnson 5y ago
    I'm not sure I'm comfortable with calling that a silly bias unless I heard his explanation. Point taken though - I'm weary of this genre of content producer.

nottorp 5y ago

Let me guess... this is somehow worse than their business practices at Epic...

donatj 5y ago

> this is what I’ve heard — rumors This whole article is just discussion based on a rumor.

karaterobot 5y ago
A rumor the source will not stand by, and the person writing the article didn't investigate. And it's all just recapitulating an interview someone else did. So, this is clickbait that shouldn't be on HN.

steelstraw 5y ago

Fight Club was recently released on Tencent Streaming. Check out how they edited the final scene: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1485707293769584641 https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1485707293769584641

hammock 5y ago
That's hilarious.
- killjoywashere 5y ago
  Like, 1984 hilarious? Like, when my mountain biking buddy warns me of some insane switchback-into-vertical-drop-then-duck-under-the-log-at-the-bottom-or-decapitate-yourself and says it's hilarious?
AdmiralAsshat 5y ago
Wouldn't want their citizens getting any crazy ideas about challenging the social order, after all.
evan_ 5y ago
Ironically that’s like 1% away from the book ending.
adamrezich 5y ago
ha, they got rid of the "subliminal" dick at the end

Koshkin 5y ago

But one doesn't come without the other... /ducks

snowgrove 5y ago
It’s hard to say beyond anecdotal impressions. There are rankings out there of average breast size by country, perhaps drawn from brassiere sales numbers, but I’ve never seen one which disambiguates cup size (itself an incomplete indicator) from overall BMI. An obese white European woman may have a larger chest on average than African women of a healthy weight, but it’s not clear which example theater audiences would find the most attractive on the basis of their bust. That’s my juvenile speculation for the day.

_bfhp 5y ago

> Within both Activision's and Blizzard's studios, management allegedly both allowed and encouraged "cube crawls", where male employees went from cubicle to cubicle, drinking heavily and making inappropriate advances towards and physically touching female employees. ... A woman employee reportedly died by suicide during a business trip after suffering "intense sexual harassment" in the preceding days, which included employees sharing nude photos of her at a company holiday party. The human resources departments allegedly did not keep reports of sexual harassment confidential, which as a result allowed managers and others to retaliate against employees who reported misconduct, such as by denying them promotions, transferring them to other departments, prioritizing them during company-wide layoffs, or preventing them from working on desirable projects. [0] Let's fix China tho [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Department_of_Fair_Employment_and_Housing_v._Activision_Blizzard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Department_of_Fair_...

gowld 5y ago
Yes, let's fix both. That's why CA filed a lawsuit.

tyleo 5y ago

I got a buzzfeed-style ad for “hottest beach babes of 2021” or similar half way through. I know the ad is generated by an automated system. But it’s hypocritical that a news site would make claims of righteousness while engaging in very similar sexualization of women.

Shadonototra 5y ago

Hollywood Allegedly Wanted Sexier Womens and No Arabs in Movie it Funded who's better? i need the media to tell me, i can't make a decision myself