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No one wants their unpopular ideas to be "promoted" she gives anecdotal accounts of popular creators being gradually shadowbanned. It is the very point that pr

No one wants their unpopular ideas to be "promoted" she gives anecdotal accounts of popular creators being gradually shadowbanned. It is the very point that propagation of speach is not dependent on popularity but increasingly on alignment with powerful interests and it does a lot of damage. How could you miss that?

zozbot234 5y ago
> she gives anecdotal accounts of popular creators being gradually shadowbanned How "popular" are we talking, though? Taking a big picture view, "official" narratives are pretty popular whilst "alternative" points of view are niche. And modern AI-powered algorithms don't do a great job of promoting niche, long-tail content in general. For all we know, this might be the outcome of a random AI tweak that results in burying some content because it gets predicted as "unpopular".
- macilacilove 5y ago
  Anti-wokeness is very popular. Not trusting the presidential elections is very popular. Not trusting big pharma is very popular. All of these are algorithmically suppressed. If the definition of popular is what you see on twitter, etc, then nothing popular is being censored by definition.
  - Regic 5y ago
    Source? I've seen this claim many times but is it just a feeling or is there at least a whistleblower?
    - macilacilove 5y ago
      There are some whistleblowers indeed, but for the most part many dominant tech companies semiopenly proclaim these groups to be "dangers to society" and many admit to use "throttling", shadow-banning, and "machine learning fairness" to reduce the exposure to these thought crimes. The only reason there are limited numbers of whistleblowers is that Tech companies actively brainwash their employees to think that the marginalized opinions are just some "small dangerous fringe nazi thing", similarly to how the commenters I replied to seem to think.

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No one wants their unpopular ideas to be "promoted" she gives anecdotal accounts of popular creators being gradually shadowbanned. It is the very point that pr

by macilacilove 5y ago

zozbot234 5y ago
> she gives anecdotal accounts of popular creators being gradually shadowbanned How "popular" are we talking, though? Taking a big picture view, "official" narratives are pretty popular whilst "alternative" points of view are niche. And modern AI-powered algorithms don't do a great job of promoting niche, long-tail content in general. For all we know, this might be the outcome of a random AI tweak that results in burying some content because it gets predicted as "unpopular".
- macilacilove 5y ago
  Anti-wokeness is very popular. Not trusting the presidential elections is very popular. Not trusting big pharma is very popular. All of these are algorithmically suppressed. If the definition of popular is what you see on twitter, etc, then nothing popular is being censored by definition.
  - Regic 5y ago
    Source? I've seen this claim many times but is it just a feeling or is there at least a whistleblower?
    - macilacilove 5y ago
      There are some whistleblowers indeed, but for the most part many dominant tech companies semiopenly proclaim these groups to be "dangers to society" and many admit to use "throttling", shadow-banning, and "machine learning fairness" to reduce the exposure to these thought crimes. The only reason there are limited numbers of whistleblowers is that Tech companies actively brainwash their employees to think that the marginalized opinions are just some "small dangerous fringe nazi thing", similarly to how the commenters I replied to seem to think.