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In the fall and early winter of 2020, all of the news reporting I saw claimed 80-90+% effectiveness for the COVID vaccines against the initial strain of the vir
by mcguire 5y ago
In the fall and early winter of 2020, all of the news reporting I saw claimed 80-90+% effectiveness for the COVID vaccines against the initial strain of the virus (and all pointed out that that was quite good for a vaccine). And yet, today, you have people like the author of the original article and several commenters here on HN complaining about how the vaccines don't provide "perfect protection" and claiming that they are useless if they don't that, even though that is physically impossible.
I've talked to non-technical people about technical subjects, to some success. But presenting good counterpoints to people who have no intention of playing the game honestly is wasting your breath.
- foxes 5y agoI agree. The vaccine was not about perfect protection. The risks were minimal for what it did provide. It was a reasonable decision. Being able to deploy a vaccine efficiently is what we want.
- nostromo 5y agoBoth sides seem to be engaging dishonestly though. For example, there is no scientific basis for vaccinating children 12-18. They are not at risk. You don't even need to be vaccinating healthy people under 30 for that matter. Children also do not need to be wearing masks at school or social distancing in the cafeteria. We are harming our children by robbing them of a proper education and the experiences of childhood. And yet good luck trying to convince a covid alarmist of any of this.
- inter_netuser 5y agoCovid alarmists seem to be on some kind of vaccine vendetta. They took the vaccine, so must everyone else, science be damned, seems to be their logic. Some even post their vaccination cards, as if it’s some kind of scientific evidence. Absolutely crazy.