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> What - actually - is the current death rate among children from this thing? 835 total [1] [1] https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on

by ch4s3 5y ago

> What - actually - is the current death rate among children from this thing? 835 total [1] [1] https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3 https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-...

colechristensen 5y ago
Out of about 75 million.
- 3825 5y ago
  > In 2019, 608 child passengers age 12 and younger died in motor vehicle crashes, and more than 91,000 were injured. > Child restraint systems are often used incorrectly. An estimated 46% of car seats and booster seats are misused in a way that could reduce their effectiveness. https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/child_passenger_safety/cps-factsheet.html https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/child_passenger_saf... Do you also oppose mandating car seats and seat belts?
  - useragent86 5y ago
    That kind of argument is disingenuous flamebait and ought to be flagged. By the same logic, are car seats and seat belts injected into the body?
  - colechristensen 5y ago
    No, and indeed we already do. It also illustrates a point: some people are really quite paranoid about their kids and covid but happily take other higher risks like driving around their kids in cars, which even with safety devices pose a higher risk, citing the data you just posted. I would oppose checkpoints which denied people travel privileges unless their seatbelts were checked to be used properly.
- ch4s3 5y ago
  Yes, that’s what I was pointing towards.
baskethead 5y ago
That's over two years, and the vast, vast majority of those children dying had severe health issues. We've already seen extremely consistently across children and adults that 50% or more "COVID hospitalizations" were actually hospitalizations for non-COVID related issues and COVID was detected incidentally. You can pretty much assume that half of those deaths were not related to COVID, which means that the real number of COVID deaths was more like 200 a year out of tens of millions of infections per year.
- deleted 5y ago
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- ch4s3 5y ago
  Yeah I just posted the number and the source. I mostly agree with you. The kids seem fine fortunately.
- Cornelius267 5y ago
  "You can pretty much assume that half of those deaths were not related to COVID" Can you produce a source backing up your claim?

by ch4s3 5y ago

colechristensen 5y ago

Out of about 75 million.

3825 5y ago
> In 2019, 608 child passengers age 12 and younger died in motor vehicle crashes, and more than 91,000 were injured. > Child restraint systems are often used incorrectly. An estimated 46% of car seats and booster seats are misused in a way that could reduce their effectiveness. https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/child_passenger_safety/cps-factsheet.html https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/child_passenger_saf... Do you also oppose mandating car seats and seat belts?
- useragent86 5y ago
  That kind of argument is disingenuous flamebait and ought to be flagged. By the same logic, are car seats and seat belts injected into the body?
- colechristensen 5y ago
  No, and indeed we already do. It also illustrates a point: some people are really quite paranoid about their kids and covid but happily take other higher risks like driving around their kids in cars, which even with safety devices pose a higher risk, citing the data you just posted. I would oppose checkpoints which denied people travel privileges unless their seatbelts were checked to be used properly.
ch4s3 5y ago
Yes, that’s what I was pointing towards.

baskethead 5y ago

That's over two years, and the vast, vast majority of those children dying had severe health issues. We've already seen extremely consistently across children and adults that 50% or more "COVID hospitalizations" were actually hospitalizations for non-COVID related issues and COVID was detected incidentally. You can pretty much assume that half of those deaths were not related to COVID, which means that the real number of COVID deaths was more like 200 a year out of tens of millions of infections per year.

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ch4s3 5y ago
Yeah I just posted the number and the source. I mostly agree with you. The kids seem fine fortunately.
Cornelius267 5y ago
"You can pretty much assume that half of those deaths were not related to COVID" Can you produce a source backing up your claim?