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We're not talking about USA.

• Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
  Ever heard about analogies? This one is pretty direct here.
  • fer 5y ago
    Comparing a: • Pre-industrial society with widespread slavery, with most of the agricultural production of the union, trying to secede because they don't like the new rules. Against a: • Turn-of-the-21st-century, religiously-motivated, terrorism-mediated secession with testimonial cases of slavery in a tiny post-industrial subject of the Russian Federation (and the poorest of them all). Is not only wild, but also a gigantic tu quoque, especially when you have plenty of analogies right there in the Caucasus: Abkhazian independence good, Dagestani bad; South Ossetian independence good, Ingushetian bad. That's reality of Russia saying and doing the opposite immediately inside/outside of their borders.
    • Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
      Thing is, both are part of a larger state. I'm not supporting Putin's politics, but there is a very clear distinction between internal and foreign conflicts. US civil war and Chechnya secession wars are both of the former type, and in that regard they are very similar, and widespread slavery in Chechnya makes this comparison even more vivid. As for "X good, Y bad", every conflict in history is rooted in different understanding of what's good and what's bad by different groups of people. For Georgia, Abhazian independence bad, for Russia, Dagestan independence bad, as they both claim soverenity over these respective territories. I don't understand why are you talking about it in such grandstanding fashion, it is not some groundbreaking news. So no, you can't equate internal Chechnya wars with international conflicts like Crimea and Georgia. These are two very different conflicts with very different reasons.