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I wonder how FreeBSD will fare as Linux users slowly switch over to wayland. I found this, but it doesn't tell me much: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/Wayla

I wonder how FreeBSD will fare as Linux users slowly switch over to wayland. I found this, but it doesn't tell me much: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/Wayland https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/Wayland

fgrsnau 5y ago
I am using sway (similar to i3 but for wayland) and it is working flawless on an Lenovo X230 running FreeBSD 13. It seems biggest problem will be graphics driver for different hardware.
- anon9001 5y ago
  Awesome, maybe it's worth a look then. "amdgpu" seems supported, which I assume is very similar to the linux one, since it has the same name and is open source.
kelp 5y ago
Other concerns I have are systemd dependencies and browser support. I'm not as familiar with how it works in FreeBSD, but the OpenBSD Chromium maintainer asked Google to upstream their patches and the Chromium team refused. So OpenBSD has 2.6MB of patches to maintain to keep Chromium going. I just checked and it looks like FreeBSD has 4.1MB of patches in their Chromium port. See: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/b57hDs8yE4g/m/5tXefZ74AQAJ?pli=1 https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/b5... Gnome decided a while back that systemd dependencies were ok, so the BSDs (and Gentoo) have large patch sets to maintain to keep basic functionality going. Those are just a couple of examples of large important projects that don't want to dedicate much if any effort to portability to BSDs or other non-Linux OSs. Seems like that puts more and more pressure on a small number of volunteers to keep up porting efforts of some mainstream programs, otherwise *BSD becomes even more niche and limited.
- NexRebular 5y ago
  Linux development strategy is sure starting to look a bit like our old friend EEE...
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  I like systemd but I hope that it never becomes necessary to use only systemd if you use linux, diversity is important.

fgrsnau 5y ago

I am using sway (similar to i3 but for wayland) and it is working flawless on an Lenovo X230 running FreeBSD 13. It seems biggest problem will be graphics driver for different hardware.

anon9001 5y ago
Awesome, maybe it's worth a look then. "amdgpu" seems supported, which I assume is very similar to the linux one, since it has the same name and is open source.

kelp 5y ago

Other concerns I have are systemd dependencies and browser support. I'm not as familiar with how it works in FreeBSD, but the OpenBSD Chromium maintainer asked Google to upstream their patches and the Chromium team refused. So OpenBSD has 2.6MB of patches to maintain to keep Chromium going. I just checked and it looks like FreeBSD has 4.1MB of patches in their Chromium port. See: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/b57hDs8yE4g/m/5tXefZ74AQAJ?pli=1 https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/b5... Gnome decided a while back that systemd dependencies were ok, so the BSDs (and Gentoo) have large patch sets to maintain to keep basic functionality going. Those are just a couple of examples of large important projects that don't want to dedicate much if any effort to portability to BSDs or other non-Linux OSs. Seems like that puts more and more pressure on a small number of volunteers to keep up porting efforts of some mainstream programs, otherwise *BSD becomes even more niche and limited.

NexRebular 5y ago
Linux development strategy is sure starting to look a bit like our old friend EEE...
stjohnswarts 5y ago
I like systemd but I hope that it never becomes necessary to use only systemd if you use linux, diversity is important.