>but it is simply not the case that the rates of death from Covid are similar between those with the vaccine and those without That's the whole point! What mat

>but it is simply not the case that the rates of death from Covid are similar between those with the vaccine and those without That's the whole point! What matters is not the number of covid deaths, it's the total number of deaths. If a treatment saves people from covid but kills them for other reasons, it's not an effective treatment. Overall excess mortality is what matters.