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I think dread is a bit over dramatic. I still find utility in Google Maps and GMail. Some products in the Google domain are heading that way but I don't dread G

I think dread is a bit over dramatic. I still find utility in Google Maps and GMail. Some products in the Google domain are heading that way but I don't dread Google I treat them as a business with respect to my coupling to them on a case by case basis. I used to be a Google first, now I am one to look at all options and decide if its worth coupling something else in my life to Google. In many cases its not worth it or even required.

matheweis 5y ago
> I still find utility in Google Maps and GMail. Give it time... There are a lot of people feeling that dread about “gmail” now. Have you seen the recent threads about GSuite Legacy? Small businesses and families suddenly need to cough up hundreds of dollars per year or figure out how to migrate away from a product that originally marketed itself as free forever.
- notyourwork 5y ago
  Sure, maybe they will and maybe they won't. Personally, I'll be happy to pay for it and have considered over the last few months a migration plan away to a paid subscription. It's just not on top of my todo list. If Google started asking me to pay, I'd pay because they have provided this service and its pretty darn good if you ask me. How much I'd pay is an open question.
fsflover 5y ago
> I still find utility in Google Maps and GMail. Concerning the maps, try https://openstreetmap.org https://openstreetmap.org Concerning the GMail, see this:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30051054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30051054
- accelbred 5y ago
  The Gmail app on Android also replaces all the links in your emails with Google tracking links which is not okay.
- notyourwork 5y ago
  Thanks for sharing but I wasn't really trying to debate whether I do or do not find utility in these. I do and I'm fine using them. I'm also aware of the alternatives, I use Apple maps from time to time, I use DDG on occasion. Neither is of consequence to the premise in my original post.
aendruk 5y ago
Google Maps may not have progressed to “dread” yet, but it’s solidly at frustration/wariness as a result of its incessant attempts to manipulate me. It used to be just a tool, but it’s become an adversary.

matheweis 5y ago

> I still find utility in Google Maps and GMail. Give it time... There are a lot of people feeling that dread about “gmail” now. Have you seen the recent threads about GSuite Legacy? Small businesses and families suddenly need to cough up hundreds of dollars per year or figure out how to migrate away from a product that originally marketed itself as free forever.

notyourwork 5y ago
Sure, maybe they will and maybe they won't. Personally, I'll be happy to pay for it and have considered over the last few months a migration plan away to a paid subscription. It's just not on top of my todo list. If Google started asking me to pay, I'd pay because they have provided this service and its pretty darn good if you ask me. How much I'd pay is an open question.

fsflover 5y ago

> I still find utility in Google Maps and GMail. Concerning the maps, try https://openstreetmap.org https://openstreetmap.org Concerning the GMail, see this:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30051054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30051054

accelbred 5y ago
The Gmail app on Android also replaces all the links in your emails with Google tracking links which is not okay.
notyourwork 5y ago
Thanks for sharing but I wasn't really trying to debate whether I do or do not find utility in these. I do and I'm fine using them. I'm also aware of the alternatives, I use Apple maps from time to time, I use DDG on occasion. Neither is of consequence to the premise in my original post.

aendruk 5y ago

Google Maps may not have progressed to “dread” yet, but it’s solidly at frustration/wariness as a result of its incessant attempts to manipulate me. It used to be just a tool, but it’s become an adversary.