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Why should tesla be forced to open their network? They had the foresight to build it out ahead of time. I think it would be better to incentivize other networks

by rnk 5y ago

Why should tesla be forced to open their network? They had the foresight to build it out ahead of time. I think it would be better to incentivize other networks to do better and compete with tesla.

dont__panic 5y ago
Why should gas stations be forced to open their networks? Why should AT&T home internet let you sign up for Comcast or Google Fiber? Why should Verizon let you take a device you bought through them to T-Mobile? Why should Edge let you download Firefox? I'll give you a few options: consumer choice, freedom, interoperability, less physical waste?
bdcravens 5y ago
Doesn't matter; Tesla has already said they would, and started the pilot program a couple of months ago. (not in the US yet however) https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging But to answer your bigger point: others networks aren't incentivized yet to push harder to compete. The demand just isn't there yet. For EVs to be successful in the US, there needs to be more than one successful company. This is a goal that is bigger than capitalism, and sometimes you have to work at odds with capitalism to accomplish those kind of goals.
- rnk 5y ago
  There's already more than one successful company, see vw & ea. Tesla only opened their network in europe where they have the same plug experimentally. In the us it looked like they might open their network by putting dual charging plugs at superchargers if they were getting money from the bbb, but that money seems remote now. If telsa started building ccs charging networks in the us that were about the same as tesla superchargers except with that plug, they'd crush the competition because they charge market rates for their electricity and fix them when they are broken - this is beyond the capability the vw-owned electrify america.

by rnk 5y ago

Why should tesla be forced to open their network? They had the foresight to build it out ahead of time. I think it would be better to incentivize other networks to do better and compete with tesla.

dont__panic 5y ago

Why should gas stations be forced to open their networks? Why should AT&T home internet let you sign up for Comcast or Google Fiber? Why should Verizon let you take a device you bought through them to T-Mobile? Why should Edge let you download Firefox? I'll give you a few options: consumer choice, freedom, interoperability, less physical waste?

bdcravens 5y ago

Doesn't matter; Tesla has already said they would, and started the pilot program a couple of months ago. (not in the US yet however) https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging But to answer your bigger point: others networks aren't incentivized yet to push harder to compete. The demand just isn't there yet. For EVs to be successful in the US, there needs to be more than one successful company. This is a goal that is bigger than capitalism, and sometimes you have to work at odds with capitalism to accomplish those kind of goals.

rnk 5y ago
There's already more than one successful company, see vw & ea. Tesla only opened their network in europe where they have the same plug experimentally. In the us it looked like they might open their network by putting dual charging plugs at superchargers if they were getting money from the bbb, but that money seems remote now. If telsa started building ccs charging networks in the us that were about the same as tesla superchargers except with that plug, they'd crush the competition because they charge market rates for their electricity and fix them when they are broken - this is beyond the capability the vw-owned electrify america.