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you could make your point without being derisive and ableist, especially considering the people involved have credentials and are trained in their fields.
by riffic 5y ago
you could make your point without being derisive and ableist, especially considering the people involved have credentials and are trained in their fields.
- dheera 5y agoBut it creates "engagement" which is rewarded these days apparently. Also, I thought the trained people should have learned a thing or two from Pompei not to build near volcanoes. I'll cut some slack for the people who designed Pompei, they didn't know, but everyone after that should have learned.
- cyberlurker 5y agoPompeii was a Pyroclastic flow not lava.
- dheera 5y agoOK, I meant more like "dangerous hot shit that wipes out everything in its path" in a general sense. If someone gave me a contract to build something in modern-day Herculaneum I would say no. I think it's irresponsible to build there. In terms of lives lost it's tantamount to knowingly shipping a hundred 777s with loose screws that cause them to crash. The number of downvotes on this thread is also exactly why we have disasters with volcanic eruptions. This is like the geological equivalent of a bunch of antivaxxers.
- mattmoose21 5y agoWhat are the chances that the volcano erupts with a train on/near that portion of track? How often would you likely have to fix it? How much does it cost to go around? I am sure these questions are being asked and the risks being weighed. They may not be right and you might not agree with them but unless they did this without any forethought I would not call them dumb. Also you are comparing them to Pompei even though this is a train track not a city.
- dheera 5y agoIt would disrupt critical supply chains. That train line is part of a key freight artery between Seattle, Portland, SF, LA, and SD. Railroads and highways also invite towns and cities to be built around them, so if you want to be responsible toward future generations of human lives, you should direct those major arteries through less geologically-active regions. Hugging an active volcano never was a good idea in history and it still isn't.
- pyrophane 5y agoI'm assuming you meant to write ableist, in which case, how is the above comment ableist?
- czzr 5y agoI had to read it several times to get it, but I think they’re referring to “dumb” which could also refer to people who can’t speak. The funny thing about this is that I simply read “dumb” as “stupid” and didn’t make any connection to being mute - but thanks to the earlier comment I’ve now made the association. So, well done policing the discourse, I guess?
- user982 5y agoIt's offensive to idiots.
- riffic 5y agoedited, thank you. To answer your question, adjectives related to intelligence are ableist in origin. I don't think this needs to be explained and it's not my job to educate you or anyone else on this forum.
- stavros 5y agoThere should be a word for the driveby condemnation (ooh we could call it that) that is "what you said is unethical but it's not my job to tell you how". I doubt driveby condemnation will convince many people.
- riffic 5y agoI mean, that's a fair point. I just feel this sort of dialogue is disrespectful to the engineers who actually build the stuff the grandparent commenter is complaining about. moot since the comment itself is dead/flagged but if you're calling people idiots, show me your credentials.
- stavros 5y ago
- ajkjk 5y agoHmm, the problem with the parent is that it's derisive and also just wrong, not that it is 'ableist'.