> Google "russia says georgia shot first" and you'll get hundreds of millions of hits with articles claiming both ways. If you think this is an unorthodox view

> Google "russia says georgia shot first" and you'll get hundreds of millions of hits with articles claiming both ways. If you think this is an unorthodox view I'm afraid you just didn't follow the news of this story at all. I have no doubt about that! You can probably even find several (thousands) claiming disguised Ukrainian nazis had also participated! However, I was responding to you claim that NATO forces that were there for wargames are somehow to blame, which is indeed unorthodox. > No! He made it quite clear that if NATO decides to defend Ukraine we have a moral and legal obligation to do so as well. It's in the very same interview. I can't come up with any realistic scenario where NATO decides anything that Biden doesn't agree with. Obviously he can't just say "Hey, we don't really care about Eastern Europe and Russia because we would like to concentrate on competition with China for foreseeable future, but at the same time we can't afford to look weak and unprepared again after Afghanistan disaster, so we are going to act tough and continue to be visibly and deeply concerned about situation in Ukraine!", don't you think? > So obviously in the very same interview he isn't taking it off the table - it's just not what he will be doing right now I mean, when else do you expect him to do it? Stationing US troops in Ukraine after Russia has already occupied it would be quite challenging in my opinion. > This is from an article posted 45 minutes ago from NBC News. Obviously Biden has not taken sending troops off the table. He means further reinforcing deployments of forces in existing NATO member countries in Eastern Europe.