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Advertisements in the start menu around Windows 8 was my tipping point. It's just a trashy thing to see candy crush and other crap in there that I never asked
by qbasic_forever 5y ago
Advertisements in the start menu around Windows 8 was my tipping point. It's just a trashy thing to see candy crush and other crap in there that I never asked for, never could remove, etc. I went to Ubuntu and now PopOS and haven't looked back in almost 10 years. Maybe they've cleaned things up and removed the crap in later Windows but the damage is done and I'm never going back.
- gurkendoktor 5y agoI doubt it, given that Microsoft now actually owns the Candy Crush IP.
- xxs 5y agonot yet, the deal has to pass through a lot of regulatory bodies to become a thing.
- muzz 5y agoNo, the only "actually" is that a deal was announced to buy the company that has that. The acquisition won't be finished for months if at all (government may block based on antitrust concerns)
- cerved 5y agoby months I think you mean years
- gvExwLi6sU 5y agoHad to install Windows 11 yesterday and the fresh install had Facebook, TikTok, Xing, Spotify and more on the start menu as shortcuts. No clue, if they are actually fully installed but I was able deinstall and remove them through the context menu. May vary for other contries as Xing is very specific and only relevant for German speaking countries.
- ur-whale 5y ago
- ivanmontillam 5y agoNobody forces anyone to install an OS, but he probably meant that he was pressured into, not by someone but by the very conditions of software. My example: I had to return to Windows a while back because I rely heavily on Zoom Meetings, and Zoom in Linux is just near unusable.
- joana035 5y agoZoom works okay in Linux via web browser. EDIT: I use Firefox.
- artemave 5y agoPlease elaborate. I've been pair programming on zoom for years (Ubuntu, i3wm). So had my colleague on Elementary and another one on Fedora. It's clearly usable. EDIT: via native app that is
- idontknowifican 5y agoit’s dependent in your window system. with wayland zoom is using screen shots to create a video feed in lieu of using the actual api because it would mean zoom has to respect privacy so no go
- 0xFF0123 5y agoDidn't Ubuntu have an Amazon link in the Unity start menu for a while?
- lnxg33k1 5y agoThat could be removed and never come back, on the other hand i think canonical is going towards the path of Microsoft nonetheless
- Mikeb85 5y agoNah Ubuntu got rid of the Amazon link and app, I think they're doing well in the enterprise space these days so there's no fuckery on the desktop (although that means they've also given up on stuff like phones).
- runjake 5y agoI fully expect Microsoft to eventually acquire Canonical, and if you pay attention to behind-the-scenes interactions between the two, it seems very likely.
- tata71 5y agoLink or two to get me started?
- runjake 5y agoI don't want to generate unwanted interest or drama for specific people by pasting links to mailing lists. You can Google for "microsoft (buy|acquire) canonical" and find points on why it's very likely.
- izolate 5y agoI suspect something similar. They have a good partnership. While we're dreaming, I'd love to see a version of Windows with a Linux kernel. They could do what they did with Edge, replace the core with something better.
- input_sh 5y agoMy tipping point was not being able to figure out how to shut down the computer in Windows 8 (not 8.1). I've used Alt+F4 to shut it down for months because I legit couldn't figure out that the shut down button is in Charms. They've moved it back to start in 8.1, but by that point I've already switched to elementary OS (beta of 0.2 Luna), and that's (mostly) where I've stayed for the past 10 years (there were a couple of attempts of switching to GNOME, they've all failed).
- prawn 5y agoFrustrating thing is it's hard to escape. It's petty, but one of the most infuriating episodes of my life was Apple forcing that U2 album into everyone iOS owner's existence and making it difficult (impossible at the time?) to delete. I'd forgotten all about it until, a couple of phones later, it reappeared as the first song played every time I connected my phone to the car. Petty, like I said, but enraging. Having some basic control over an environment you've paid for should be a given.
- salamandersauce 5y agoI believe it was impossible. You could hide it but even that was a bit tricky to finding. They did eventually come up with a website where you could scrub it from your account. It wasn't even just iOS owners but everybody with an iTunes account.
- kreetx 5y agoAs per the sibling link to Apple's support it's impossible again to remove it without contacting support. > It sounds like you did some great research on this, and you're right. Customers are no longer able to remove the album on their own. You will need to reach out to Apple Support directly to have the album removed.
- projektfu 5y agoIt also had weird cover art which, while artistic, was borderline NSFW and not what I wanted to have pop up every time I got in my car. Apple makes weird decisions sometimes.
- StevePerkins 5y agoI finally contacted Apple support to have the album removed, years after the fact, because I switched to Apple Music. And felt nervous about having, in my open floor plan workplace, a shirtless man tenderly caressing another shirtless man's crotch with his face every time I opened the app. There was literally no way to change this default behavior, because Apple are control freaks. As an added kicker, I stressed over it for a couple of weeks first, worried about whether I was being homophobic or not.
- freeqaz 5y agoI'd definitely recommend checking out Arch or Manjaro if you're a developer btw. Ironically, I've had fewer issues with Linux since swapping. Simple things like being on the newest kernel tends to keep hardware issues at bay. (And switching to Pipewire has fixed all of my audio issues completely) It's ironic that a "rolling release" OS is often more stable than a "mainstream" OS like Ubuntu. That's just been my experience over the past few years though, and I feel that it's important to help more devs realize that!
- opan 5y agoSeconding this, except Manjaro specifically seems to have a lot of issues that don't hit me on regular Arch. Void and Alpine are also good.
- derekp7 5y agoSimilar reason to why I'm on Fedora. 6-month release cycle with a 12-month maintenance cycle. Which means I can frequently get on the latest kernel and other goodies such as Pipewire, yet I can also wait a couple months after release to pull the trigger in case there are issues. I'm also seriously considering Fedora Silverblue once I get more of a feel for how it works under the covers.
- freeqaz 5y agoHow does that work with EOL for a release? Does everything break and you have to re-install? My disk encryption is a little complicated so I'm happy that my rolling release means I only have to re-install when I swap boxes. That was my biggest issue with Ubuntu -- your were SOL when EOL :P
- bravetraveler 5y agoThere's an in place upgrade process, as long as you haven't put a bunch of third party repositories/packages on the system they tend to go generally well Some of the more drastic changes aren't adopted this way, eg: filesystem defaults
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- thorin 5y agoI've used win 8 and win 10 exclusively for years but have never seen an advert. Is this because I have the business (enterprise) edition, not the home version? I'm not sure how good or bad Bing, Edge etc are as I only use them occasionally, but it does seem concerning that Microsoft has changed these defaults during an update. Is this even legal, post anti trust etc?
- dmead 5y agoTo be fair, Ubuntu also has had advertisements in the menus.
- cuteboy19 5y agoAnd so does firefox