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Or maybe, you don't get to totally tee off on a movie unless it's total trash, and I'm sure he had fun with this one.

by ipspam 5y ago

ggm 5y ago
He had a valid point: Kids movies can be better. Why not try harder? The usual path out is to make it somehow educational which sucks, because kids know when they're being lectured. But they could have put some decent dialogue and dad-jokes in. Spongebob movie was a gem, packed full of bizarre witticisms and the Hof. But I do think Ebert reviewing MMPR is .. ok, next he could have done dragonball Z
- egypturnash 5y ago
  He didn't review any Dragonball films (Wikipedia tells me there were about ten!) but here's his review of the first Spongebob movie. He thought it was pretty decent, 3 stars out of 4. https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-spongebob-squarepants-movie-2004 https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-spongebob-squarepants...
- throw0101a 5y ago
  > He had a valid point: Kids movies can be better. Evidenced by the fact that in the same year (1995) Toy Story also came out. A number of good movies that year: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_in_film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_in_film
- mzs 5y ago
  >He had a valid point: Kids movies can be better. Why not try harder? indeed: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-water-horse-legend-of-the-deep-2007 https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-water-horse-legend-of...
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  > Why not try harder? Haim Saban didn't become a billionaire by trying harder in that way. He built an empire off of cross-national media translocation, not chasing Citizen Kane. The movie that tried harder was the 2017 Power Rangers film, with a worldwide gross of $142.3 million, against a production budget of $100 million. Contrast with this movie, doing $66.4 million on a $15 million budget. Mich better ROI on just giving the target demo what they wanted.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
    I feel like yourself and the other poster saying Eberts review is bad are missing the point. Given that the owners of the IP are filthy rich, they could have done a better job. Indeed lots of other production companies produce kids shows that are better and they make shit tons of money on merch: Star Wars, Frozen, Toy Story, all the Marvel stuff, basically most of the Disney stuff. All the Studio Ghibli stuff (actually I don’t know how rich Ghibli are). I’m trying hard to think of anything not Disney…
    - ggm 5y ago
      we're mixing goals. Eewoks didnt hurt the bottom line. Nor did Jar Jar binks. Pretty well everyone I know over the age of ten thinks the idea was flawed. Oddly, nobody much cares that the cantina band is the muppet show. The music is just pure muppet. I guess we play mozart, so there's no reason the galaxy far far away decided the muppet music style was their kind of groove
      - 2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
        I’m not sure if you are suggesting that we should or should not mix goals or if it’s a bad thing. There were certainly miss steps with some of these franchises, but they seem to be able to have their cake and eat it too.
        ggm 5y ago
        I'm kinda hedging. I bet the morphs made money.
    - shadowgovt 5y ago
      Saban wasn't filthy rich in 1995... He was doing okay, but the Power Rangers movie was a gamble for his studio. He didn't bet the whole farm on it because it could have bankrupted them if it tanked on a huge budget. It did great on the budget allocated to it. Bets like that are how he became filthy rich.

Or maybe, you don't get to totally tee off on a movie unless it's total trash, and I'm sure he had fun with this one.

by ipspam 5y ago

Or maybe, you don't get to totally tee off on a movie unless it's total trash, and I'm sure he had fun with this one.

ggm 5y ago

He had a valid point: Kids movies can be better. Why not try harder? The usual path out is to make it somehow educational which sucks, because kids know when they're being lectured. But they could have put some decent dialogue and dad-jokes in. Spongebob movie was a gem, packed full of bizarre witticisms and the Hof. But I do think Ebert reviewing MMPR is .. ok, next he could have done dragonball Z

egypturnash 5y ago
He didn't review any Dragonball films (Wikipedia tells me there were about ten!) but here's his review of the first Spongebob movie. He thought it was pretty decent, 3 stars out of 4. https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-spongebob-squarepants-movie-2004 https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-spongebob-squarepants...
throw0101a 5y ago
> He had a valid point: Kids movies can be better. Evidenced by the fact that in the same year (1995) Toy Story also came out. A number of good movies that year: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_in_film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_in_film
mzs 5y ago
>He had a valid point: Kids movies can be better. Why not try harder? indeed: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-water-horse-legend-of-the-deep-2007 https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-water-horse-legend-of...
shadowgovt 5y ago
> Why not try harder? Haim Saban didn't become a billionaire by trying harder in that way. He built an empire off of cross-national media translocation, not chasing Citizen Kane. The movie that tried harder was the 2017 Power Rangers film, with a worldwide gross of $142.3 million, against a production budget of $100 million. Contrast with this movie, doing $66.4 million on a $15 million budget. Mich better ROI on just giving the target demo what they wanted.
- 2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
  I feel like yourself and the other poster saying Eberts review is bad are missing the point. Given that the owners of the IP are filthy rich, they could have done a better job. Indeed lots of other production companies produce kids shows that are better and they make shit tons of money on merch: Star Wars, Frozen, Toy Story, all the Marvel stuff, basically most of the Disney stuff. All the Studio Ghibli stuff (actually I don’t know how rich Ghibli are). I’m trying hard to think of anything not Disney…
  - ggm 5y ago
    we're mixing goals. Eewoks didnt hurt the bottom line. Nor did Jar Jar binks. Pretty well everyone I know over the age of ten thinks the idea was flawed. Oddly, nobody much cares that the cantina band is the muppet show. The music is just pure muppet. I guess we play mozart, so there's no reason the galaxy far far away decided the muppet music style was their kind of groove
    - 2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
      I’m not sure if you are suggesting that we should or should not mix goals or if it’s a bad thing. There were certainly miss steps with some of these franchises, but they seem to be able to have their cake and eat it too.
      - ggm 5y ago
        I'm kinda hedging. I bet the morphs made money.
  - shadowgovt 5y ago
    Saban wasn't filthy rich in 1995... He was doing okay, but the Power Rangers movie was a gamble for his studio. He didn't bet the whole farm on it because it could have bankrupted them if it tanked on a huge budget. It did great on the budget allocated to it. Bets like that are how he became filthy rich.